D&Ds
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With so many Mders wanting their C&W, how many
“illegal” ranges are in use?
“illegal” ranges are in use?
C&W requirements creating a new dilemma?
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Not really. People have been misusing their private property for as long as their has been private property.
Buildings, junkyards, burn pits, stills, firing ranges, I'm sure the list goes on and on...
Buildings, junkyards, burn pits, stills, firing ranges, I'm sure the list goes on and on...
DutchV
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- Jul 8, 2012
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Article is behind a paywall. Maybe you could copy and paste some of it?
I don't understand what "C&W" has to do with it, but the incident (and an available article) are being discussed here:
www.mdshooters.com
Moorish Americans take over a rural gun range, sparking a strange showdown
Interesting story about a so called "gun range" and Moorish [sovereign] citizens. Moorish Americans, Gun Range from msn.com
D&Ds
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yep, guess he has a flashier title. Chantel Manley was originally using the property to conduct C&W classes.I don't understand what "C&W" has to do with it, but the incident (and an available article) are being discussed here:
Moorish Americans take over a rural gun range, sparking a strange showdown
Interesting story about a so called "gun range" and Moorish [sovereign] citizens. Moorish Americans, Gun Range from msn.com
Click on the link and give it a couple seconds to load, then hit the pause/stop/reload button on your browser (I use Vivaldi). Lets the article load up and then freeze it before the paywall bs pops up.
Loads too fast on fiber. Reader view usually works though
Threeband
The M1 Does My Talking
Country AND Western?
He definitely has a better title, if the discussion is meant to focus on the Moorish occupation. Were you pushing for a different angle, about the "dilemma? " I'm not clear on that. Is C&W a transposed version of Wear & Carry, or something else some of us might not know about? :shrug?
Must have been playing it too loud and upset the neighbors
D&Ds
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no it wasnt about the Moorish occupation. It is a question wondering how many other Md instructors are using unapproved firing ranges.
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Chicken wire?
E.Shell
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Do you mean 'not disapproved'?
Who "approves" firing ranges? What make a place to shoot "approved"?
Biggfoot44
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- Aug 2, 2009
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I see where the OP is going .
Yes , many and probably most SOMD based instructors use " private range facilities " .
It's not illegal to shoot on private property generally . It is still much rural area , and lots of places to do so safely .
The question comes down to whether a particular property is a Farm , where some shooting happens to take place vs being a RANGE , requiring zoning , and meeting all the requirements of a commercial business .
Kind of parallel to " Farm that happens to primarily board horses" vs being licensed as a Riding Stable .
Yes , many and probably most SOMD based instructors use " private range facilities " .
It's not illegal to shoot on private property generally . It is still much rural area , and lots of places to do so safely .
The question comes down to whether a particular property is a Farm , where some shooting happens to take place vs being a RANGE , requiring zoning , and meeting all the requirements of a commercial business .
Kind of parallel to " Farm that happens to primarily board horses" vs being licensed as a Riding Stable .
D&Ds
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This is what kinda started the Byron Bell /Manley/ Moorish problem. According to CC zoning regulations
“4.02.290 Outdoor rifle and pistol ranges, war games, archery ranges or other recreational activities using weapons. These uses are permitted by special exception in the WCD, AC, RC, CN, CC, CV, BP, PRD and PEP Zones, subject to the following standards:
[Amended 6-6-2017 by Bill No. 2017-03]
A. Adjacent areas shall be predominantly undeveloped or occupied by low-intensity land uses such as agriculture, etc.
B. Facilities shall be constructed in such a manner as to eliminate all danger to people and property from flying projectiles.
C. War games will be permitted for a period of one year only, subject to renewal.”
Byron Bell, etal. never applied for a special exemption.
Some shooting would most likely not involve a “class/training session” nor would fees be paid to the “instructor”.
