Can the Democratic Party in Maryland Be Saved? Is it worth trying?

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  • Billyb

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    MDS Supporter
    Nov 7, 2022
    240
    Towson
    A while back I saw a message on here that said something along the lines of “we need more blue dog democrats in office”. I’m originally from Louisiana and old enough to remember when conservative democrats were a powerful force. That was a long, long time ago and I’ve been a registered Republican for 40 something years now. Which, in Baltimore County, means I am politically insignificant.

    I recognize that trying to influence my Democratic so-called representatives as a registered Republican is futile. That’s why yesterday I changed my and my wife’s voter registrations to the Democratic Party. Once we are on the roles, I will be contacting our delegate and state senator letting them know the 2nd Amendment is of primary importance to us and that we vote.

    Waste of time? Maybe. Probably. But worth a try to me. I still believe the Republic can be saved by working within the system. Naive? I guess there’s worse things. Besides, I can still vote Republican in the General Election.
     

    Cochise

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 5, 2008
    1,386
    Rockville
    I am a democrat because in Montgomery County we haven't elected a Republican to any office since Howie Dennis about 20 years ago.
    The democratic primary here is the election, I can do what I want in the general, but with closed primaries there is no point in being anything other than a democrat if you want to vote.
     

    Wayneb

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    Dec 31, 2018
    32
    Ellicott City, MD
    A while back I saw a message on here that said something along the lines of “we need more blue dog democrats in office”. I’m originally from Louisiana and old enough to remember when conservative democrats were a powerful force. That was a long, long time ago and I’ve been a registered Republican for 40 something years now. Which, in Baltimore County, means I am politically insignificant.

    I recognize that trying to influence my Democratic so-called representatives as a registered Republican is futile. That’s why yesterday I changed my and my wife’s voter registrations to the Democratic Party. Once we are on the roles, I will be contacting our delegate and state senator letting them know the 2nd Amendment is of primary importance to us and that we vote.

    Waste of time? Maybe. Probably. But worth a try to me. I still believe the Republic can be saved by working within the system. Naive? I guess there’s worse things. Besides, I can still vote Republican in the General Election.
    Sounds like a good strategy. Similar to those people who change their registration to Democrat to be able to influence the Democratic primary. After being a life-long independent, but voting Republic since 1980, I finally decided to register Republican in order to have some say in which Republican makes it to the general election. Hopefully someone who can win. In Maryland you have to consider trying everything.
     

    RFBfromDE

    W&C MD, UT, PA
    MDS Supporter
    Aug 21, 2022
    13,009
    The Land of Pleasant Living

    Can the Democratic Party in Maryland Be Saved?

    No.

    Is it worth trying?
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    No.

    Their racist legacy and duplicity are simply too great to recover from.
     

    Billyb

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    Nov 7, 2022
    240
    Towson
    No. Unless we can tie gun control laws to racism. For everything else they are true believers who won't change
    Gun control laws are racist in that they disproportionately affect minorities which tend to be poorer and unable to afford the costs associated with legally acquiring and carrying a handgun for self defense. This argument should be raised repeatedly with the MGA.
     

    Some Guy

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    Oct 26, 2017
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    I don't know if the party can be saved, but it can be influenced if there's enough people registering as democrats and engaging at their local precincts during the primaries. Get enough 2A advocates on county and state democratic party committees and the committees could exert pressure through party campaign finance to compel democratic candidates and elected officials to modify their behavior as it relates to the 2A. Target finance and platform committees if they have such organization in Maryland. Just need a bunch of 2A civil rights activists to register as democrats during the primaries and engage in local, county and state precincts to make this happen. Maybe something like 2,000 people participating in this and it would change party behavior. I've seen this done in Texas. And registering as democrat does not affect anyone's voting behavior in a primary election.
     

    Biggfoot44

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 2, 2009
    33,438
    Can the Republican Party in Maryland be Saved ? Is it worth Trying ?

    They're outnumbered like Custer at the Little Bighorn , and half of them are Dem Lite going along to get along . ( And yes , you can't totally blame them . If they ran/ acted as actual Republican/ Conservative , they wouldn't be electable in Maryland .)

    Both are long shot , but no more implausible to nudge some D's to the Center than to elect a wave of Republicans .
     

    Biggfoot44

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    Aug 2, 2009
    33,438
    Sounds like a good strategy. Similar to those people who change their registration to Democrat to be able to influence the Democratic primary. After being a life-long independent, but voting Republic since 1980, I finally decided to register Republican in order to have some say in which Republican makes it to the general election. Hopefully someone who can win. In Maryland you have to consider trying everything.

    How often are there TWO or more viable Reps running against each other in State or Local elections ?

    And enough other states have earlier Presidential Primary than Md , so the field are usually sorted out with clear front runners before we vote .

    Yeah , I've been doing the DINO thing
    But where I live ALL the Dems are maxium Insane , and nothing to choose from to be either least worst , or more vulnerable in General .
     

    BeoBill

    Crank in the Third Row
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    Oct 3, 2013
    27,255
    南馬里蘭州鮑伊
    How often are there TWO or more viable Reps running against each other in State or Local elections ?

    And enough other states have earlier Presidential Primary than Md , so the field are usually sorted out with clear front runners before we vote .

    Yeah , I've been doing the DINO thing
    But where I live ALL the Dems are maxium Insane , and nothing to choose from to be either least worst , or more vulnerable in General .
    The "anointed ones" are usually selected during the Summer prior to the Primary. They're easy to spot because they're all over the media in the Summer months. And they usually are unopposed in the Primary.
     

    Blacksmith101

    Grumpy Old Man
    Jun 22, 2012
    22,344
    Another DINO here, as a registered Democrat when I call and write (an actual had written letter in your own words means more than a cut and paste copy of someone else) the staffers who do the actual reading will pay attention because when they check, and they do check, they will see a "D" on the voter registration list. My vote in the primary actually counts for more because the Republicans frequently only have a single candidate for a position if they run anyone at all so the most gun friendly is more likely to be in the general election. And in the general election I can still vote for anyone I choose.
     

    Longhorse

    MSI Member
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    Jul 8, 2021
    161
    Gun control laws are racist in that they disproportionately affect minorities which tend to be poorer and unable to afford the costs associated with legally acquiring and carrying a handgun for self defense. This argument should be raised repeatedly with the MGA.

    This should be the first point brought up in any discussion with people who are in favor of gun control or are anti-2A, as many of them also voice support for social justice and anti-racism initiatives. 2A advocates should be leading with this argument. There are other arguments as well of course, but this one is much more likely to resonate with people who want to restrict 2A rights. Restrictions on 2A rights and concealed carry, especially with the significant new restrictions proposed in Maryland after thousands of new licenses have been issued (and after thousands of new people have learned information in their 16-hour course that would suddenly be outdated) is virtually guaranteed to result in more (and likely disproportionate) arrests and negative law enforcement interactions with people of color who are trying to exercise their constitutional rights.
     

    cmb

    Active Member
    Dec 28, 2012
    503
    Conowingo MD
    A while back I saw a message on here that said something along the lines of “we need more blue dog democrats in office”. I’m originally from Louisiana and old enough to remember when conservative democrats were a powerful force. That was a long, long time ago and I’ve been a registered Republican for 40 something years now. Which, in Baltimore County, means I am politically insignificant.

    I recognize that trying to influence my Democratic so-called representatives as a registered Republican is futile. That’s why yesterday I changed my and my wife’s voter registrations to the Democratic Party. Once we are on the roles, I will be contacting our delegate and state senator letting them know the 2nd Amendment is of primary importance to us and that we vote.

    Waste of time? Maybe. Probably. But worth a try to me. I still believe the Republic can be saved by working within the system. Naive? I guess there’s worse things. Besides, I can still vote Republican in the General Election.
    I have yet to find something "Democratic" about the Democrat party and it's members. Can't find much "Republicanal" about the Republican party either.
     

    Slackdaddy

    My pronouns: Iva/Bigun
    Jan 1, 2019
    5,988
    Lost cause fellas,
    It is a cultural/racial shift that will not be altered.
    In years gone by, Maryland's old school good ole boy, corrupt, white Democrats were there to line their pockets,, but at least had a sliver of belief in "America",, and remembered they had families at home that had to live in whatever mess they made.
    Today's Democrat leadership is a mixture of radical 3rd world communists that want to burn it all down and remake it in their socialist vision. And racially charged individuals that want to destroy anything "white".
    And finally sprinkle in the typ "Guilty White Liberal" that is despertally trying to prove they are not a racist,,, even though they are.

    And 90% of Maryland's population votes whatever candidate is offering the most "Free $hit"

    Edit: I am open to suggestions on how to change the course, if someone shows just one example of an idea that moderately worked, I am on board with my money and time.
     
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