Cleaning a CZ 82

[Darth Fabulous]

Hey all,
Just purchased my first CZ 82. Since it has the polygonal rifling, is there anything I need to differently in cleaning?

 

[BeltBuckle]

nope.

 

[bkraft]

Just squint more to try and see the rifling

 

[vette97]

It requires a special bronze brush designed for polygonal rifling. I have an extra one specifically designed for 9x18mm polygonal barrels and can part with it for $20.

 

[dwhaley]

I remember reading somewhere that polygonally-rifled pistols (IE my Glock 19) are NOT supposed to be fed un-jacketed lead ammunition. Aside from that, I think everything is the same.

From Wikipedia:

The manufacturer Glock advises against using lead bullets (meaning bullets not covered by a copper jacket) in their polygonally rifled barrels, which has led to a widespread belief that polygonal rifling is not compatible with lead bullets.

Firearms expert and barrel maker, the late Gale McMillan, has also commented that lead bullets and polygonal rifling are not a good mix. Some have made a point of the fact that neither H&K nor Kahr explicitly recommend against lead bullets in their polygonal rifled barrels, and feel that it is probable that there is an additional factor involved in Glock's warning.

However, Kahr's FAQ does include a warning that lead bullets can cause additional fouling[7] and recommends special attention to cleaning after using them. In addition, while H&K doesn't warn against the use of lead, at least one well-documented catastrophic incident in an H&K pistol[8] may be related to this issue. Furthermore, Dave Spaulding, well-known gun writer, reported in the February/March 2008 issue of Handguns Magazine that when he queried H&K about their polygonally rifled barrels that they commented: "It has been their experience that polygonal rifling will foul with lead at a greater rate than will conventional rifling."

One suggestion of what the "additional factor involved in Glock's warning" might be is that Glock barrels have a fairly sharp transition between the chamber and the rifling, and this area is prone to lead buildup if lead bullets are used. This buildup may result in failures to fully return to battery, allowing the gun to fire with the case not fully supported by the chamber, leading to a potentially dangerous case failure. However, since this sharp transition is found on most autopistols this speculation is of limited value. The sharp transition or "lip" at the front of the chamber is required to "headspace" the cartridge in most autopistols.

Another possible explanation is that there are different "species" of polygonal rifle and perhaps Glock's peculiar style of polygonal rifling may be more prone to leading than the particular styles employed in the H&K and Kahr barrels.

Leading is the buildup of lead in the bore that happens in nearly all firearms firing high velocity lead bullets. This lead buildup must be cleaned out regularly, or the barrel will gradually become constricted resulting in higher than normal discharge pressures. In the extreme case, increased discharge pressures can result in a catastrophic incident.

Hope this helped.

 

[Kman]

I remember reading somewhere that polygonally-rifled pistols (IE my Glock 19) are NOT supposed to be fed un-jacketed lead ammunition. Aside from that, I think everything is the same.

From Wikipedia:



Hope this helped.

I heard that about Glocks too...after a steady diet of lead for probably 6,000 rds. Never had a problem. Just quick cleaning every 2 or 3 hudred rds.