Delegate Dwyer Gets a Response from the AG's Office

[Spot77]

http://delegatedwyer.com/effect-of-2nd-amendmant-case-according-to-attorney-general

 

[Boondock Saint]

As we expected. "Heller/McDonald addressed carry in the home, SCOTUS hasn't clarified carry yet to the point that we must recognize the serfs ability to carry outside the home."

Makes sense, I suppose. Still, piss on the AG's office.

 

[Ethan83]

Well then. I guess I'm not surprised.

 

[Inigoes]

Hi-cap magazines are unusual?

 

[aquaman]

I never understood why people thought McDonald would change anything. Things will only change when the legislature changes to majority pro-gun with motivation to make some changes.

 

[MDFF2008]

I never understood why people thought McDonald would change anything. Things will only change when the legislature changes to majority pro-gun with motivation to make some changes.

McDonald provided only the foundation for change. What we make of it is up to us.

I think that we will not have a real answer until Alan Gura takes MD or NY or NJ or HI to the Supreme Court. These states will most likely escape any effect from Palmer, since Palmer is speaking to a system where you cannot even apply for a permit.

When a state that issues permits in a discriminatory manor is taken to court, that will change things.

 

[krucam]

I never understood why people thought McDonald would change anything. Things will only change when the legislature changes to majority pro-gun with motivation to make some changes.

Things will change here not in the Legislative sense, but in the Judicial sense. MD has with this letter indicated that they can't read, aren't aware of cases in DC, IL, and CA...they've indicated they have blinders on. Half of their argument in the letter was spent justifying Domestic Violence "suspects" prohibitions. The other half was a 2008 memo to Rosenburg following Heller.

Nothing about Due Process. They didn't mention the word "Fundamental" which is clearly indicitive of looking at the world through rose colored glasses.

Yes...we wait on other Jurisdictions to make their decisions, but MD is going to need to have a Judicial sledgehammer brought down on them. SAF/NRA/Cato/MSI will need to help us unless Palmer AND Sykes go our way, which is not outside the realm of possibilty.

I've mentioned before, I'm single-issue this November. What's your stance and track record on 2A rights.

This is disappointing, but my CCW application will go forward in August.

 

[CanDoEZ]

I must have missed the earlier letter to address the Heller decision, was it made public? Not surprising that Rosenberg requested it though, and now the AG is using it as precedense.

Just plain laziness to reference the earlier, detailed document re: Heller even though McDonald was much more sweeping to my non-lawyered reading.

 

[press1280]

The 2008 letter uses the line from Heller about concealed weapons prohibitions being valid as an excuse for arbitrarily issuing carry permits when they know dam well(or at least they should) OPEN carry was constitutionally protected by those states. NJ has also pulled the same crap (Google Scholar-In re application of Factor) by always assuming concealed carry, when the permit does not specify the mode of carry.

They're going to end up taking the long and expensive route toward inevitably having to gut many of their laws.

 

[NateIU10]

McDonald provided only the foundation for change. What we make of it is up to us.

I think that we will not have a real answer until Alan Gura takes MD or NY or NJ or HI to the Supreme Court. These states will most likely escape any effect from Palmer, since Palmer is speaking to a system where you cannot even apply for a permit.

When a state that issues permits in a discriminatory manor is taken to court, that will change things.

Washington DC is May-issue, you must request an application from the chief. I know of no one who has gotten even as far as the papers, but it DOES exist. Palmer may be more helpful then some think.

 

[MDFF2008]

Washington DC is May-issue, you must request an application from the chief. I know of no one who has gotten even as far as the papers, but it DOES exist. Palmer may be more helpful then some think

It's going to be interesting. It depends on if the court decides to see DC as a may issue or a no-issue.

If the court rules based on DC as a de-jure may issue, but a de-facto no issue, then it will be powerful ammo.

If the court rules based on DC not issuing any permits, it may not be the greatest thing for us.

 

[Wraith]

Gansler could have saved time, and paper, if he had just typed what he was saying, minus the fluff.


Dear Delegate Dwyer,


F**k You!




Sincerely,
Attorney General Gansler

 

[Kharn]

I never understood why people thought McDonald would change anything. Things will only change when the legislature changes to majority pro-gun with motivation to make some changes.

The opinion is filled with references to "a fundamental right" That's why things are going to change post-McDonald.

Washington DC is May-issue, you must request an application from the chief. I know of no one who has gotten even as far as the papers, but it DOES exist. Palmer may be more helpful then some think.

After Heller DC adopted new laws and became no-issue, thus Palmer's quick reaction.

 

[Tom43491]

Anxiously awaiting the next round of cases to be settled...

 

[Patrick]

That right there was a punt by the AG.

It wasn't lazy - it was calculated to avoid answering the question.

We need to send a better letter/question. The first was too open ended.

 

[Boondock Saint]

That right there was a punt by the AG.

It wasn't lazy - it was calculated to avoid answering the question.

We need to send a better letter/question. The first was too open ended.

How might you word a follow up inquiry?

 

[eruby]

Gansler could have saved time, and paper, if he had just typed what he was saying, minus the fluff.


Dear Maryland Residents,


F**k You!




Sincerely,
Attorney General Gansler

Fixed it.

 

[Patrick]

How might you word a follow up inquiry?

Send a new letter.

I was writing one as the good Delegate sent his short request. Maybe I'll finish it.

 

[pcfixer]

One answer, Patriots. Vote Sept 14 primary and Novemeber 2.

 

[Boondock Saint]

Send a new letter.

I was writing one as the good Delegate sent his short request. Maybe I'll finish it.

I'd love to see what you might author, and I would imagine Del. Dwyer might as well.