Delinking Belted Ammo: Anyone Know Tips/Tricks?

[oather]

http://www.copesdistributing.net/product_info.php?cPath=45_125&products_id=2496&osCsid=7d9387b176e400cb23ec273be3c15b76

I'd like to take advantage of this deal, however I've never delinked belted ammo before and it doesn't seem like something that would be easy to do without the right equipment. So I was wondering if anyone had some knowledge on how to do it easily or what tools I could buy to get it done.

 

[Idempotent]

Someone will come along and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it can be linked and delinked by hand (so, sort of not any different than loading into an M1 Garand clip). So you just pull each cartridge out of the link.

 

[Inigoes]

If the ammo comes in ammo cans you're in business.

Since the ammo is quai delinked so far, which is great as far as MD law in concerned.

The proceedure I follow:
open can
pull belts from can
close can
grab a belt, press base of the cartridge against a flat portion of the can (namely somewhere around a corner), repeat until all ammo is delinked.

It takes me about an hour for 1000 rounds, give or take.

 

[oather]

If the ammo comes in ammo cans you're in business.

Since the ammo is quai delinked so far, which is great as far as MD law in concerned.

The proceedure I follow:
open can
pull belts from can
close can
grab a belt, press base of the cartridge against a flat portion of the can (namely somewhere around a corner), repeat until all ammo is delinked.

It takes me about an hour for 1000 rounds, give or take.

Gotcha. That seems kind counter-intuitive to me since it seems like that by doing that you'd be moving the link to the larger section of the case. However, it makes sense because you certainly wouldn't want to put pressure on that bullet.

 

[Inigoes]

JGsales.com has a good deal, plus if you do not want the aggrevation of delinking the ammo yourself, JGsales will do it for $5 more.

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info...rds-in-ammo-can-/cPath/12_43/products_id/4371

 

[oather]

JGsales.com has a good deal, plus if you do not want the aggrevation of delinking the ammo yourself, JGsales will do it for $5 more.

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info...rds-in-ammo-can-/cPath/12_43/products_id/4371

I did see that. However that brings the cost up to $80 for 160rnds, which is nearly $15 more than Copes or Classicarms has it for. Plus if I want to order 4-5 cases thats an extra $60-$75 on the order, with which I could buy another 160rnds if I delink it myself.

 

[Inigoes]

I did see that. However that brings the cost up to $80 for 160rnds, which is nearly $15 more than Copes or Classicarms has it for. Plus if I want to order 4-5 cases thats an extra $60-$75 on the order, with which I could buy another 160rnds if I delink it myself.

I hear ya, that's why I delinked myself also.

Once you jump into the delinking process, you will find what's best for you.

If you get a pearl of wisdom that makes the process easier, please share.

 

[oather]

I hear ya, that's why I delinked myself also.

Once you jump into the delinking process, you will find what's best for you.

If you get a pearl of wisdom that makes the process easier, please share.

Will do. Thanks for the jump-start.

 

[BeltBuckle]

it's not hard to de-link it by hand, and once you hold some you will easily see how to do it/how easy it is. A bit tedious with large amounts, but not difficult.

go for it!

 

[Topher]

This is my favorite de-lilnker.

 

[DaedalEVE]

If the ammo comes in ammo cans you're in business.

Since the ammo is quai delinked so far, which is great as far as MD law in concerned.

The proceedure I follow:
open can
pull belts from can
close can
grab a belt, press base of the cartridge against a flat portion of the can (namely somewhere around a corner), repeat until all ammo is delinked.

It takes me about an hour for 1000 rounds, give or take.

What does Maryland Law have to do with it?
I've searched for anything related to linked ammunition, and can't find a thing regarding it.
Could you explain how linked ammunition presents a legal issue in MD? Maybe point out the statute?
The only thing I can think of that you MAY be referring to is magazine restrictions, but links are not a magazine.

 

[rob-cubed]

I just delinked a whole bunch of Hirt... some may cringe at the idea of pushing a cartridge out by its nose, but it doesn't take much force and is easier than trying to catch the rim. I set a soft pine board on the bench with a small hole in it (for the nose, to hold it steady). Flip the belt over and push down using the links on either side as leverage. Pops right out the back.

I've tried a couple different methods and this is the fastest. FWIW AIM actually has a video showing someone doing this... again it's probably not for the squeamish but I haven't had any problems with it.

 

[Inigoes]

What does Maryland Law have to do with it?
I've searched for anything related to linked ammunition, and can't find a thing regarding it.
Could you explain how linked ammunition presents a legal issue in MD? Maybe point out the statute?
The only thing I can think of that you MAY be referring to is magazine restrictions, but links are not a magazine.

Linked ammunition in belts greater than 20 is considered hi-capacity.
Md. Criminal. Law Code § 4-305(b).

If you purchase ammo where rounds are linked together in groups of 4, you are fine.

 

[SKIP]

Space down the page for delinking video.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=A308H200&groupid=26

 

[mikec]

Linked ammunition in belts greater than 20 is considered hi-capacity.
Md. Criminal. Law Code § 4-305(b).

If you purchase ammo where rounds are linked together in groups of 4, you are fine.

How is a belt consider a magazine?

I actually want someone to fabricate a 30 round stripper clip. Yes, totally impractical, but I want them to do it in MD and offer it for sale.

It probably would fail as you use it, but I want MSP to try to claim a clip is a magazine.

 

[mikec]

This is my favorite de-lilnker.

What links does that gun use? The Hirt from AIM uses M13 links. Do the Brownings also use them?

 

[Inigoes]

How is a belt consider a magazine?

I actually want someone to fabricate a 30 round stripper clip. Yes, totally impractical, but I want them to do it in MD and offer it for sale.

It probably would fail as you use it, but I want MSP to try to claim a clip is a magazine.

A large capacity magazine is any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than prohibited by the city or state.

You might find the following link an interesting read:

http://www.lcav.org/content/large_capacity_ammunition_magazines.pdf

 

[DaedalEVE]

Linked ammunition in belts greater than 20 is considered hi-capacity.
Md. Criminal. Law Code § 4-305(b).

If you purchase ammo where rounds are linked together in groups of 4, you are fine.

I'm with Mike on this one. That is a GROSS misinterpretation of the statute.
While "magazine" is not actually defined in MD code, it has been defined elsewhere as a container used for the purpose of feeding ammunition into the chamber of a firearm.
Simply being a feeding device (like a stripper clip... or my own hand) isn't enough... nor is simply being a container (in which case you could argue that buying a box of ammunition containing more than 20 rounds would be a violation of MD code ).

Since there is no state or federal prohibition... it must be legal.

Also keep in mind you CAN transport/own/use magazines with a capacity greater than 20 rounds in MD... you just can't buy/sell/assemble/receive/transfer them in state.
So even assuming you COULD count links as a magazine, there is nothing stopping you from going out of state, getting the linked ammunition or magazine, and bringing it back home.

*I am not a lawyer. This in not legal advise. Blah blah blah...

Additional:
I never heard of lcav.org until just now, but by looking at their site they seem like another anti-gun-rights group, in the same vein as the "Brady Bunch".
In fact I looked at the article (which seems like nothing more than pro gun control propaganda), and the bit you are referring too, in regards to belt fed ammunition, was a provision of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, in particular Title XI, Subtitle A... ie: the Federal Assault Weapons Ban... which EXPIRED in 2004.
OH, and that article also seems to have it's "facts" wrong as well. Notice how it says MD has a BAN on magazine larger than 20 rounds? There is no "ban". As I said before you can have the stuff, you just need to do a little leg work to get it.

 

[Inigoes]

I'm with Mike on this one. That is a GROSS misinterpretation of the statute.
While "magazine" is not actually defined in MD code, it has been defined elsewhere as a container used for the purpose of feeding ammunition into the chamber of a firearm.
Simply being a feeding device (like a stripper clip... or my own hand) isn't enough... nor is simply being a container (in which case you could argue that buying a box of ammunition containing more than 20 rounds would be a violation of MD code ).

Since there is no state or federal prohibition... it must be legal.

Also keep in mind you CAN transport/own/use magazines with a capacity greater than 20 rounds in MD... you just can't buy/sell/assemble/receive/transfer them in state.
So even assuming you COULD count links as a magazine, there is nothing stopping you from going out of state, getting the linked ammunition or magazine, and bringing it back home.

*I am not a lawyer. This in not legal advise. Blah blah blah...

While I'm agreeing with the arguments, finding a reputable dealer who will ship large belts of ammunition to maryland could be a problem.

 

[DaedalEVE]

While I'm agreeing with the arguments, finding a reputable dealer who will ship large belts of ammunition to maryland could be a problem.

Again, I don't really see why. I'm not sure it even matters anyway though.
Belt-fed firearms are not all that common, nor is the availability of linked ammo. In the few cases where someone actually needed linked ammunition, you can get around any little technicalities there may be.

As things are, I know how to legally obtain anything short of new production Title II select-fire firearms (ie: machine guns), and explosives. And if I had the cash, and was motivated enough, I could do the paperwork needed to get those as well.