Discrimination Against Gun Owners continues

[Jimbob2.0]

Really? Freaking libertard, I get it we have differing beliefs but refusing a reference letter for a high performing students because their views differ. This is someone who should never get tenure. I don't agree with the tenure system, but it was intended to protect people who have differing views from political discrimination. Bet she would sue if she was denied tenure because she was anti.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/04/2...r-to-write-reference-for-pro-gun-student.html

 

[POP57]

Too many "ifs" and "not knowns" in this article. Nothing to get fired up about. Sorry.

 

[dplay]

Hold on

Let's not freak out just yet. The teacher hasn't refused to write the recommendation; she's struggling with her long held beliefs and trying to reconcile them with the student's right to fairness. Instead of falling back on anti-2A rhetoric, she seems to want to do the right thing, even if that thing goes against her beliefs. I can't fault her for that...yet.

 

[POP57]

Let's not freak out just yet. The teacher hasn't refused to write the recommendation; she's struggling with her long held beliefs and trying to reconcile them with the student's right to fairness. Instead of falling back on anti-2A rhetoric, she seems to want to do the right thing, even if that thing goes against her beliefs. I can't fault her for that...yet.

My thoughts as well. You just did a better job of expressing them.

 

[rseymorejr]

I don't know, It seems like she anonymously wrote this little passive aggressive letter for a reason. Maybe as a message to young gun owners: don't talk about it, don't write about it, keep it "in the closet" or we have ways
of screwing you over.

 

[Pablopac]

Back in the day, when I came off active duty I went to UMBC and was in the ARNG. Got into ROTC but had to attend Hopkins ROTC as UMBC prohibited any ROTC, military, military recruiting, all too violent. This is more of the same BS.
pablopac

 

[Jimbob2.0]

Too many "ifs" and "not knowns" in this article. Nothing to get fired up about. Sorry.

Of course its fox news. But even the tenor of the approach is frighteningly indicative. People not doing their professional duty..

If a professor had done the same "ruminating" about not writing a letter due to a student being transgender (which honestly I probably differ significant faction of people here, I don't care its a person's right to pursue that if that's what they want it would be national news and a lawsuit.

Sure, nothing to roll out the pitchforks and torches over yet..........just more wood for the fire.

 

[Reptile]

Let's not freak out just yet. The teacher hasn't refused to write the recommendation; she's struggling with her long held beliefs and trying to reconcile them with the student's right to fairness. Instead of falling back on anti-2A rhetoric, she seems to want to do the right thing, even if that thing goes against her beliefs. I can't fault her for that...yet.

She does not want to do the right thing. She wants to do the liberal thing - project her own irrational fears on someone else. She grew up in an environment where there were guns and a mentally unstable person and her mother wisely kept the two apart. She, on the other hand, distrusts everyone with guns believing apparently that the rest of the world is not smart enough to deal with it intelligently. Any God forbid that someone with pro-gun sentiments gets into her vaunted profession of education.

 

[MigraineMan]

Maybe the student could ask for a letter of recommendation from someone who doesn't despise her.

“On one side are all of my ideas about supporting students, honoring their individuality and their journeys, creating a safe space for them (and myself), not taking things out of context, not overinterpreting,” Payne wrote. “On the other side are my memories of growing up in a situation where guns, people, and bullets had to be rigorously kept apart, lest they find each other in a tragic moment of instability.”

As Reptile pointed out, the bolded section in the quote says it all.

 

[Redcobra]

I always told students to write their own recommendation letter and let me read it. If I agreed, I would sign it.

 

[zoostation]

She shouldn't have to struggle with a decision over whether to write a recommendation or not based on someone's personal beliefs. Either the student or qualified or she isn't. Anti-gun, pro-gun, whatever. The mere fact this professor even needs to question doing what is so obviously the right thing to do leads one to question her fitness.

It's like a judge or politician saying he is "agonizing" over whether to take a really good bribe or not. It does not make him a decent guy if he has to really think about it.

 

[MigraineMan]

I didn't catch it the first time through, but there's a link to the original pseudonomyous article at The Chronicle of Higher Education.

The long version feels very professionally written ... along the lines of a political position paper. I'm dubious that the author is female, but can understand why that choice might be made. There's a personal association, relate-able situation, establishment of credibility, demonstration of detail knowledge ... all leading the reader to a conclusion:

I also don’t know if she understands emotions, or what real rage feels like. It seems to me no person who has truly experienced the full impact of their own emotions would ever go near a gun.

The second-to-last paragraph is designed to make the reader uncomfortable -

But this whole thing just feels so, so … so much like creeping up the attic stairs, unzipping the padded case and running my fingers over the tendrilled grooves etched into the barrel of that old Browning shotgun. Peering down the chamber, I didn’t know how to say it then, but tools for killing will always be sacred.

And she finishes, pleading with the reader, (I'm paraphrasing here) "How can I do what needs to be done without becoming a victim myself? Teachers shouldn't have guns."

I mean, she’s applying to a teacher-credential program, for God’s sake.

 

[Baccusboy]

Of course its fox news. But even the tenor of the approach is frighteningly indicative. People not doing their professional duty..

If a professor had done the same "ruminating" about not writing a letter due to a student being transgender (which honestly I probably differ significant faction of people here, I don't care its a person's right to pursue that if that's what they want it would be national news and a lawsuit.

Sure, nothing to roll out the pitchforks and torches over yet..........just more wood for the fire.

"Of course it's Fox News..."

WTF???? This article comes from The Chronicle of Higher Education. Fox was just picking up on it.

The Chronicle is THE place where educators look for jobs. Considers tops in the industry.

 

[dplay]

FLIP FLOP

I didn't catch it the first time through, but there's a link to the original pseudonomyous article at The Chronicle of Higher Education.

The long version feels very professionally written ... along the lines of a political position paper. I'm dubious that the author is female, but can understand why that choice might be made. There's a personal association, relate-able situation, establishment of credibility, demonstration of detail knowledge ... all leading the reader to a conclusion:


The second-to-last paragraph is designed to make the reader uncomfortable -


And she finishes, pleading with the reader, (I'm paraphrasing here) "How can I do what needs to be done without becoming a victim myself? Teachers shouldn't have guns."

Oops, I missed that link too. After reading the entire letter, I agree, there could be a hidden agenda; and taking it on face value, the issue: whether to give a recommendation, based on merit, or, to deny, based on bias, should not be in question.