Garden Thread 2023

[Alphabrew]

Started some peppers for me and two super sweet 100 cherry tomatoes for my wife. I’m going to attempt to grow some cherry tomatoes over the winter, I’ll post more about that later.

 

[Alphabrew]

A couple of the tomatoes just popped up through the soil

 

[Joseph]

A couple of the tomatoes just popped up through the soil

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That is pretty fast! Didn’t you start those Monday?

 

[Alphabrew]

That is pretty fast! Didn’t you start those Monday?

Yep

 

[Alphabrew]

Just got myself this gardening book. My wife knows the author who is a very knowledgeable gardener/homesteader

 

[ToolAA]

This is one area of prepping and personal interest that I’ve severely neglected. I’ve always wanted to create a garden but I live on a virtual ski slope. My daughter who has a house in Georgia had taken up the mantle and is starting a modest vegetable/ herb garden this year.


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[mpollan1]

Hello,

I am thinking about growing some jalapeño, red bells and some tomatoes in 5g buckets this year on the porch. That way they don’t get lost in the weeds out in the big garden.

Cross pollination is a thing. Ended up with some very mild cayenne peppers last year as they cavorted with my bells. Oddly none of the bells picked up any heat.

Edit: My 'mater plants are an honest 12" tall already. Should I start another batch? Seems in previous years my 'maters began dying before their time. Always thought I killed them but now I'm thinking old age. What say ye?

 

[wilcam47]

Cross pollination is a thing. Ended up with some very mild cayenne peppers last year as they cavorted with my bells. Oddly none of the bells picked up any heat.

Edit: My 'mater plants are an honest 12" tall already. Should I start another batch? Seems in previous years my 'maters began dying before their time. Always thought I killed them but now I'm thinking old age. What say ye?

Ive heard of cross polination, but that it affects next years seeds, meaning not this years peppers but the plants grown from the cross pollinated peppers. And basically there are hotter pepper plants and milder ones.

Also if you like bell peppers, try Marconi peppers. I think they taste better and are faster growing than bell peppers

 

[mpollan1]

Ive heard of cross polination, but that it affects next years seeds, meaning not this years peppers but the plants grown from the cross pollinated peppers. And basically there are hotter pepper plants and milder ones.

Also if you like bell peppers, try Marconi peppers. I think they taste better and are faster growing than bell peppers

I'm far far far from being an expert but in my mind's blind eye, I thought the cross pollination occurs at the flower/fruit level. I can say with certainty that some cayenne peppers were waaaaay hotter than others from the same plant. Last year was the first year for bells and the first time I noticed the variability. I'm kind of afraid to go down the interwebs rabbit hole on this one but likely will.

Thanks for the tip on Marconis although I'm not sure I'll do any bell type peppers.

What do you think about my 'mater woes?

 

[Alphabrew]

How big of a container are your 12” tomato plants in? Are you giving them any nutes? Are they under a grow light or in a greenhouse or something?

12” in early April are going to be pretty big to be transplanting to the ground in mid May. Might be worth starting another batch.

 

[on_the_rox]

My 'mater plants are an honest 12" tall already. Should I start another batch? Seems in previous years my 'maters began dying before their time. Always thought I killed them but now I'm thinking old age. What say ye?

What do you think about my 'mater woes?

What variety of tomatoes? Any indeterminate variety shouldn't really be affected. Tomato plants will survive up until frost with proper care. They can certainly succumb to pests, disease, etc. Otherwise it shouldn't be a problem. I would say to try not to stress them too much while they are young (get too cold, too dry, transplant shock, etc). I personally would be happy with 12" tall plants right now. In a few weeks, I'd plant them horizontally a couple inches deep and just turn up about 5-6 inches of top growth above ground. All that buried stem will grow roots and you'll have a very strong plant.

 

[mpollan1]

What variety of tomatoes? Any indeterminate variety shouldn't really be affected. Tomato plants will survive up until frost with proper care. They can certainly succumb to pests, disease, etc. Otherwise it shouldn't be a problem. I would say to try not to stress them too much while they are young (get too cold, too dry, transplant shock, etc). I personally would be happy with 12" tall plants right now. In a few weeks, I'd plant them horizontally a couple inches deep and just turn up about 5-6 inches of top growth above ground. All that buried stem will grow roots and you'll have a very strong plant.

Thanks, I do containers and repot 3 times burying them deeper/bigger each time. They do great but really fade Septemberish. I do not have a place as the sun gets lower and trees still with foliage that gets nice sun. I  think that is at least part of my woes.

 

[wilcam47]

Thanks, I do containers and repot 3 times burying them deeper/bigger each time. They do great but really fade Septemberish. I do not have a place as the sun gets lower and trees still with foliage that gets nice sun. I  think that is at least part of my woes.

Do they fruit? Or just die off?

 

[wilcam47]

I'm far far far from being an expert but in my mind's blind eye, I thought the cross pollination occurs at the flower/fruit level. I can say with certainty that some cayenne peppers were waaaaay hotter than others from the same plant. Last year was the first year for bells and the first time I noticed the variability. I'm kind of afraid to go down the interwebs rabbit hole on this one but likely will.

Thanks for the tip on Marconis although I'm not sure I'll do any bell type peppers.

What do you think about my 'mater woes?

I dunno either, they say no. But i had habanero peppers next to jalapenos once and one of the jalapenos were super hot. Be it from the plant itself or cross pollination, stuff I read says no.


Couple articles.

Can You Plant Sweet and Hot Peppers Close Together?

Many gardeners wonder about the effects of planting peppers close together when growing...

homeguides.sfgate.com

What happens when sweet peppers and hot peppers cross pollinate? Dan Gill's mailbag

Gardening-Picking Peppers

www.nola.com

 

[Fundamentalist]

I’ve grown reapers next to sweet peppers and bells. It’s the following years seeds that’s are hot hot hot

 

[pitpawten]

Cross pollination is a thing. Ended up with some very mild cayenne peppers last year as they cavorted with my bells. Oddly none of the bells picked up any heat.

Edit: My 'mater plants are an honest 12" tall already. Should I start another batch? Seems in previous years my 'maters began dying before their time. Always thought I killed them but now I'm thinking old age. What say ye?

I've started too early before, nice thing about tomatoes is that if you plant them deeper the whole stem below grade will root out. so just plant them deeper when you transplant and let them get some wind and cool in the meantime to help them hardy up

 

[mpollan1]

Do they fruit? Or just die off?

Pretty much die off. Get real leggy and wilt.

 

[wilcam47]

Pretty much die off. Get real leggy and wilt.

Blight is an issue for us, could be numerous stuff, over watering, underwatering, root rot..etc.

 

[Blacksmith101]

PSA WARNING - Frost warnings for tonight 4/8/23 and tomorrow night 4/9/23 in Cecil County!

 

[pitpawten]

PSA WARNING - Frost warnings for tonight 4/8/23 and tomorrow night 4/9/23 in Cecil County!

Thanks. We usually do mother's day for our outside spring garden inauguration for this reason.