Gearing up for 2023 Modern American Rimfire Series

[Bountied]

Is the Bridgeville club in the ES of MD

No, it's in DE.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

Deleware is just another maryland county anyway

 

[Bountied]

Deleware is just another maryland county anyway

Not to the residents of Delmarva, we want sovereignty.

 

[antco]

Next MARS at Bridgeville is Saturday 4/8?

 

[Czguy]

Not to the residents of Delmarva, we want sovereignty.

I second sovereignty for Delmarva.

 

[Czguy]

Bridgeville Rifle and Pistol Club is 8 minutes from the Maryland Delaware line on route 404.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

You should change your name to Vudoo guy

 

[Czguy]

Probably right, but I only own the one Vudoo. I still have 3 CZ rifles and 6 CZ pistols.

 

[Czguy]

I don't see you registered for Saturday?

 

[Czguy]

Bridgeville Rifle and Pistol Club is holding it's April PRS/Mars Tactical Bench Rest match on Saturday. Anyone interested it's not to late to register. I do have loaner rifles available. If you need a loaner rifle. Please email me at: bridgevillenrl22@gmail.com

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[leomort]

What are some scopes recommendation to get someone new into the MARS competition?

 

[KRC]

There are several scope companies all offering great scopes for MARS/PRS/NRL type competition. Athlon, Vortex and Arken are probably the most common. The main specs should include:
1) have a First Focal Plane reticle
2) have variable magnification (most are in the 4-8x low to ~25-30X high range)
3) have a significant amount of elevation adjustment using a turret (usually 50+ MOA) more the better, especially if shooting 300+ yards and ELR
4) have a reticle that you like (highly personal), but must have good elevation and windage gradations
5) brighter (larger tube and objective lens) is better
6) nice to have a scope company that has a proven record of positive and timely warranty response and after-sales customer support
7) scope does NOT have to be MIL graduated - both MOA and MIL work although MIL is more common

Examples of scopes with these specs can be found for each of the above mentioned vendors, in a wide variety of quality and price. Personal budget and current sales promotion considerations often dictate which is the "best" value in each price range at any given time. Others will recommend specific scopes, but basically any scope from the three mentioned vendors that meets the above specs will be excellent for MARS/PRS/NRL use.

 

[Swaim13]

What are some scopes recommendation to get someone new into the MARS competition?

I would try a match before buying a scope of you are new. At just about every club, someone will have a spare rifle setup for you to try. If not, let me know and I'll come and loan you one for the match.

What KRC posted is really spot on. Reticles are really personal preference. If you go to a match, people will let you look through their scopes if you ask. It definitely helps to see things in person vs online. Sometimes there are color palettes or tones that really stand out to you but not others.

The best value currently is probably the arken scopes. I would go mil based as roughly 75-90% of people are using it which makes it easier to learn, double check data, and have them call corrections after you shoot.

 

[Czguy]

What are some scopes recommendation to get someone new into the MARS competition?

You definitely need a first focal plane scope. There are many options. It really depends on how deep you want to dive in to the sport. A lot of shooters use Arken scopes either the SH4 or the EP5. The EP5 definitely has better glass. Vortex has several options. Personally I run all vortex scopes. The strike eagle is a great scope for the money. If your a law enforcement, first responder, current or prior military you can get a great discount from www.expertvoice.com. most of the top shooters are running the vortex razor gen2 or gen3. Zero compromise and Nightforce atcr are also options if you have an unlimited budget.

Hope this helps. I have a Arken SH4 that I would be willing to sell for $350 if you are interested.

 

[Czguy]

Scratch that, I will sell the Arken for $300. The price has come down since I purchased it.

 

[leomort]

KRC, Swaim13, and CZguy,

Thank you for your help & suggestions on scopes!

Similar to CZguy, I have a CZ 452 American, except that it's left-handed!

As luck would have it, I did buy an Arken SH-4 gen2 4-16x50 scope when they had them on sale. I have/had a Leupie VXII 3-9x33mm efr scope on it.

Mine concern is that the Arken scope, as well as the other scopes mentioned are huge, not mention a lot more heavy!! That bulk and weight is going to take a while to get use to. Plus I still need to add a bipod that ups the overall weight. Also got to learn how to use those complex reticles and how to dial turrets.

CZguy, how competitive is the CZ452/455/457 in these MARS/NLA22/PRS events? Are they well represented at these matches? Or do Vudoo and RimX with high-end scope dominant them?

 

[MacGuns]

You will find plenty of CZ's at the matches. I run the MPA version of the CZ457.

Go to any match with what you have and just have fun. There are always people willing to help and loan gear.

Where are you located, I'm sure some of the members here would be willing to help you get setup for your first match.

 

[Czguy]

KRC, Swaim13, and CZguy,

Thank you for your help & suggestions on scopes!

Similar to CZguy, I have a CZ 452 American, except that it's left-handed!

As luck would have it, I did buy an Arken SH-4 gen2 4-16x50 scope when they had them on sale. I have/had a Leupie VXII 3-9x33mm efr scope on it.

Mine concern is that the Arken scope, as well as the other scopes mentioned are huge, not mention a lot more heavy!! That bulk and weight is going to take a while to get use to. Plus I still need to add a bipod that ups the overall weight. Also got to learn how to use those complex reticles and how to dial turrets.

CZguy, how competitive is the CZ452/455/457 in these MARS/NLA22/PRS events? Are they well represented at these matches? Or do Vudoo and RimX with high-end scope dominant them?

 

[Czguy]

I shoot a Vudoo now, my son still shoots a cz457 with a Shilen Select Match barrel. The CZ's are extremely competitive. As a matter of fact, the MARS regional championship last year at Marianna gun club was won by a guy shooting a bone stock 457 with an Arken optic. You won't see a noticeable difference in accuracy between the Vudoo, Rim X, and CZ until you start reaching out to 200 yards. That is if you do your job and lot test quality ammo (SK, Eley, lapua). The Vudoo and Rim X will prevail out to 300 against a factory CZ barrel. The gap is closed considerably if you re- barrel the CZ. My son's cz and my Vudoo shoot very close in accuracy at 300 yards. In a nutshell, you can't go wrong with a CZ. I competed my first year in MARS mostly using a 24" factory CZ barrel. I was Rookie of the year and finished 20th or 22nd in the series.

Attached are photos my 22'. My son's cz is the black MDT chassis. My Vudoo is the blue and black camo. Included are my other 2 cz457's.

 

[leomort]

You will find plenty of CZ's at the matches. I run the MPA version of the CZ457.

Go to any match with what you have and just have fun. There are always people willing to help and loan gear.

Where are you located, I'm sure some of the members here would be willing to help you get setup for your first match.

MacGuns,

I'm from the Germantown/Gaithersburg area.