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  • Doctor_M

    Certified Mad Scientist
    MDS Supporter
    If this is a factual article (and I doubt that it is), this would sum up the concerns of most responsible firearms owners:

    McCarthy asked how individuals could find out if they are on the high priority surveillance list to which Hunsaker responded, “Have you applied for or purchased a firearm in the United States between the years of 1999-2016? If so, then you are on this list.”
     

    jc1240

    Ultimate Member
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    Sep 18, 2013
    15,019
    Westminster, MD
    "High Priority" tell me how in the **** they can keep surveillance on the millions of gun owners in the United States, they can't even keep track of the terrorist cells here. That would be just about impossible to keep an eye on gun owners, but I'll keep an eye out for them just incase.;)

    They can. One of the DHS founders (last name something like Haney) has been on various national radio shows and Sean&Frank on WCBM talking about how OPhucker ordered all Muslim-related info (who's who and affiliated with what group) scrubbed starting in 2009. "We" had the info, but our Muslim in Chief had them throw it all away.
     

    daNattyFatty

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 27, 2009
    3,908
    Bel Air, MD
    "High Priority" tell me how in the **** they can keep surveillance on the millions of gun owners in the United States, they can't even keep track of the terrorist cells here. That would be just about impossible to keep an eye on gun owners, but I'll keep an eye out for them just incase.;)

    Yeah. This. Am I concerned, in general, of increased, pervasive surveillance? Yeah. Am I worried that because I'm a gun owner, that I'm all of a sudden going to have a team of agents, or satellite dedicated to following me? Not a chance in hell!
     

    n1hook

    Active Member
    Feb 28, 2010
    220
    Parkville
    The ultimate secret informant. Congress forbids the ATF from compiling lists of gun owners,why is NSA getting away with this? transparency? Does Congress control/exercise oversight over any agency or they just do what they want?
     

    Mark75H

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    Industry Partner
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    Sep 25, 2011
    17,347
    Outside the Gates
    Pretty sure NSA does whatever they want and we are all on their lists on servers somewhere If Congress or the courts find out later who cares. Sort of like driving down the middle of the centerline when there are no cars coming the other way

    But I am pretty sure this story is generally based on non-facts
     

    zoostation

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    Moderator
    Jan 28, 2007
    22,857
    Abingdon
    The ultimate secret informant. Congress forbids the ATF from compiling lists of gun owners,why is NSA getting away with this? transparency? Does Congress control/exercise oversight over any agency or they just do what they want?

    It's a hoax.
     

    BeoBill

    Crank in the Third Row
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 3, 2013
    27,309
    南馬里蘭州鮑伊
    They can. One of the DHS founders (last name something like Haney) has been on various national radio shows and Sean&Frank on WCBM talking about how OPhucker ordered all Muslim-related info (who's who and affiliated with what group) scrubbed starting in 2009. "We" had the info, but our Muslim in Chief had them throw it all away.

    I just hope he didn't mention backups... :D
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,525
    Westminster USA
    O'Reilly did an interesting story last night showing The MIC dressed in Muslim garb at a relatives wedding.

    Nothing to see here though.

    move along
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    DaemonAssassin

    Why should we Free BSD?
    Jun 14, 2012
    24,025
    Political refugee in WV
    Pretty sure NSA does whatever they want and we are all on their lists on servers somewhere If Congress or the courts find out later who cares. Sort of like driving down the middle of the centerline when there are no cars coming the other way

    Nope, so far off the mark it isn't even funny. Although I do enjoy watching the ill informed masses speaking on a subject they know nothing about, while thinking they are the expert. Here is a hint, FISA Section 702. Read it, know it, love it. After you read it and understand it, then you might understand the limits that are placed on NSA, CIA, and other intelligence gathering agencies, in regards to American citizens, while those agencies operate against FOREIGN powers.

    But I am pretty sure this story is generally based on non-facts

    I know 100% that is is based off of made up info, using BS sources, and overall the story might have 1% truth in it and that is why it appears valid on it's face.
     

    Jim12

    Let Freedom Ring
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 30, 2013
    34,322
    Nope, so far off the mark it isn't even funny. Although I do enjoy watching the ill informed masses speaking on a subject they know nothing about, while thinking they are the expert. Here is a hint, FISA Section 702. Read it, know it, love it. After you read it and understand it, then you might understand the limits that are placed on NSA, CIA, and other intelligence gathering agencies, in regards to American citizens, while those agencies operate against FOREIGN powers.

    Since you mentioned it, what is sacrosanct about FISA Section 702, when every federal rule, code, statute, and even the United States Constitution are routinely construed by bureaucrats, agencies, and courts to mean exactly the opposite of their plain meaning, if not violated with impunity every day?
     

    kcbrown

    Super Genius
    Jun 16, 2012
    1,393
    Nope, so far off the mark it isn't even funny. Although I do enjoy watching the ill informed masses speaking on a subject they know nothing about, while thinking they are the expert. Here is a hint, FISA Section 702. Read it, know it, love it. After you read it and understand it, then you might understand the limits that are placed on NSA, CIA, and other intelligence gathering agencies, in regards to American citizens, while those agencies operate against FOREIGN powers.

    Because, you know, the federal government is the most law-abiding entity of them all. Why, it's thanks to the law-abiding nature of the people in government that we haven't had any scandals in the executive branch, nor any anti-Constitutional decisions from the courts, nor any un-Constitutional laws passed by the legislature.

    After all, government entities do the right thing even when there are no real consequences for doing otherwise. The courts have been a shining example of that, consistently issuing decisions that uphold the Constitution even though they could get away with deciding things according to their preferences.

    Yep, our government is a shining beacon, a stalwart example of how things should be done.



    Right?


    :rolleyes:
     

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