HBar Confusion

[davidr145]

I purchased a Bushmaster HBar a few years ago as a cash and carry purchase and when Sb 281 came about it seemed that I would not have to register the weapon because it was purchased as an unregulated gun. But as I read through the forums I'm not sure if that is the case. The gun is stamper with HBar. So my question is should I get registered before Oct 1 or should I be ok. If I need to register do I just take it to a msp barrack and fill out a form. thanks

 

[montoya32]

I purchased a Bushmaster HBar a few years ago as a cash and carry purchase and when Sb 281 came about it seemed that I would not have to register the weapon because it was purchased as an unregulated gun. But as I read through the forums I'm not sure if that is the case. The gun is stamper with HBar. So my question is should I get registered before Oct 1 or should I be ok. If I need to register do I just take it to a msp barrack and fill out a form. thanks

NO! You have an unregulated rifle. DO NOT VOLUNTARILY REGISTER IT!!!!

 

[SnuffyJD]

Registration is not required. Even if it was regulated you would not have to register it.


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[frdfandc]

No registration required.

Why would you voluntarily register a firearm anyway?

 

[davidr145]

Thanks for the quick response. I was hoping that I would not have to register since I purchased it as an unregulated gun. Just some of the posts I have seen about people getting visits from the msp had me concerned.

 

[Boom Boom]

Why would you voluntarily register a firearm anyway?

It's much the same question as "Why voluntarily punch yourself in the face?".

 

[psucobra96]

he is referring to the issue with MSP going to houses asking to see rifles that the MSP had previously stated were not regulated. This includes an Ar-15 HBAR and an AR-10. MSP is up to something and no one knows what yet. So far they have had the individuals just fill out 77R forms and that was it.

 

[davidr145]

Was just concerned about getting a visit from the msp if they decided that only colt hbar's were not regulated and I failed to register

 

[Boom Boom]

MSP is up to something and no one knows what yet. So far they have had the individuals just fill out 77R forms and that was it.

It's spelled out very clearly in at least two threads that MSP is following up on an ATF audit regarding a single FFL in VA. While the reported details of how it's being handled raise questions, assuming the details are accurate, it's far from a scary black hole of unknowns.

 

[psucobra96]

It's spelled out very clearly in at least two threads that MSP is following up on an ATF audit regarding a single FFL in VA. While the reported details of how it's being handled raise questions, assuming the details are accurate, it's far from a scary black hole of unknowns.

A long rifle vs. a regulated rifle does not change when you cross state lines. Hence it is a black hole with HBARs. In this instance we had HBARs treated as regulated when they should not have, and this effects thousands of rifles sold unregulated in the state and outside, not just one dealer. They didn't want 77R filed because of the dealer, they wanted them filed because they said they were regulated.

 

[Boom Boom]

A long rifle vs. a regulated rifle does not change when you cross state lines. Hence it is a black hole with HBARs. In this instance we had HBARs treated as regulated when they should not have, and this effects thousands of rifles sold unregulated in the state and outside, not just one dealer. They didn't want 77R filed because of the dealer, they wanted them filed because they said they were regulated.

That's making leaps of logic by the mile. Important details get lost in translation during high stress. No conclusions can be drawn absent facts that cannot and will not be known until ATF and/or MSP release them. In the mean time, chill before you give yourself a heart attack. Life is short.

 

[CLP]

A long rifle vs. a regulated rifle does not change when you cross state lines. Hence it is a black hole with HBARs. In this instance we had HBARs treated as regulated when they should not have, and this effects thousands of rifles sold unregulated in the state and outside, not just one dealer. They didn't want 77R filed because of the dealer, they wanted them filed because they said they were regulated.

I respect and support LEO's , but msp works for the STATE and the state is not on our side.

 

[Markp]

Seriously, I would be afraid, very afraid if I were in Marylandistan. It's clear what the strategy is. If you haven't figured it out, you will next legislative session when they take the banned rifles and "take them off the streets" through any number of "legal" means. Don't think these gun grabbing fools are done yet. They are just getting warmed up.

 

[BRONZ]

I little off topic.

After Oct. 1 will Hbar's be plentiful in md. I need a high power match rifle. Should I vet one now or wait.

 

[gabe72]

Just look at California,first registration then confiscation,remember they feel that the streets are just flowing with evil military weapons and the children are at risk.

 

[HumbleEinstein]

If you register the lower as a type X before 10/1, then you can put whatever (non-NFA) upper you want on that lower going forward. Otherwise, you can only put HBAR uppers on it.

THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE

 

[Markp]

If you register the lower as a type X before 10/1, then you can put whatever (non-NFA) upper you want on that lower going forward. Otherwise, you can only put HBAR uppers on it.

THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE

That's not what MSP seems to be saying. MSP, however, has their heads so far up O'malley's ass the only color they see is brown.

 

[HumbleEinstein]

That's not what MSP seems to be saying. MSP, however, has their heads so far up O'malley's ass the only color they see is brown.

Regardless of what they're saying, that's how the law reads.

THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE

 

[drthv8r]

When I purchased my Windham Weaponry HBAR a few months back I was told by my FFL that the state of Godforsaken maryland only notices the Colt HBAR as being cash and carry, being mine isn't a Colt it wasn't cash and carry and I had to wait on my HBAR just like a regular AR-15. I'm not sure what I'd do if I were in your shoes, in most any other state I wouldn't worry about it. But with the MSP goosestepping with our socialist traitor of a governor Oh-Mau-Li I sure wouldn't want the MSP knocking on my door.

I have a sneaky feeling that once October 1st is here that the MSP are going to use any trick up their sleeves to do anything in their power to get those evil, mean, nasty looking scary black rifles out of the hands of honest citizens. Only because Oh-Mau-Li can't grow a pair and is so scared of them. If you register it now as a non cash and carry you won't have to always be looking over your shoulder, after October 1st you may or may not have this option. You can always contact a FFL in good standing here in the forum and ask his or her opinion.

Was just concerned about getting a visit from the msp if they decided that only colt hbar's were not regulated and I failed to register

 

[pcfixer]

American citizens. No matter what the 'law' says confiscation of firearms will be unconstitutional therefore 'wrong' and illegal. What part of "shall not be infringed"
do you not understand.

1. We will NOT obey any order to disarm the American people.
The attempt to disarm the people on April 19, 1775 was the spark of open conflict in the American Revolution. That vile attempt was an act of war, and the American people fought back in justified, righteous self-defense of their natural rights. Any such order today would also be an act of war against the American people, and thus an act of treason. We will not make war on our own people, and we will not commit treason by obeying any such treasonous order.
Nor will we assist, or support any such attempt to disarm the people by other government entities, either state or federal.

Many MSP and county Sheiff's understand that will be following an 'illegal order'.