Hi-Cap Magazines

[Starbuck]

Hi-Cap Mag's are legal to own but not legal to buy, transfer etc. If I were to use a firearm with a hi-cap mag in self-defense, am I automatically a criminal?

 

[Inigoes]

No

The same thinking as using a Standard capacity (30 rd) magazine at the range.

 

[HumbleEinstein]

I wish people would just stop talking about magazines in these open forums. USE YOUR HEADS

 

[Safetech]

I wish people would just stop talking about magazines in these open forums. USE YOUR HEADS

+1 !

 

[Robert1955]

The STANDARD 15, 17, 20, or 30 round magazines are NOT "High Capacity" they are STANDARD Capacity. A 33 round extended for the Glocks, or the 50, or 100 round drums for AR-types are, yes?

 

[AvidRider]

I wish people would just stop talking about magazines in these open forums. USE YOUR HEADS

Apparently we don't have high capacity heads.

 

[pbharvey]

Hi-Cap Mag's are legal to own but not legal to buy, transfer etc. If I were to use a firearm with a hi-cap mag in self-defense, am I automatically a criminal?

No but under the new bill, using a hi-cap in a crime is an additional charge with a mandatory minimum sentence.

 

[riss6270]

No but under the new bill, using a hi-cap in a crime is an additional charge with a mandatory minimum sentence.

I'm sure glad law makers were thinking with there brains when they made that one up. How many people have you heard of that use hi cap mags and don't end up killing there self? It's just a law to make the average person who owns them a criminal. People who shoot up schools and such don't want to be taken alive I don't know why people can't understand that.

 

[Kilroy]

Only 3% of shootings result in more than 10 shots fired, and criminals don't know how to reload. Yeah, this bill will greatly reduce crime.

 

[Second Amendment]

No but under the new bill, using a hi-cap in a crime is an additional charge with a mandatory minimum sentence.

Yeah, mass shooters will be sooooo concerned about that provision.

 

[highfructosecornsyrup]

well, we dont need guns anymore cause drones will protect us....

 

[Second Amendment]

well, we dont need guns anymore cause drones will protect us....

Interesting profile name.

 

[sleev-les]

+1 !

+2..... Just let it be and stop bringing this up

 

[rob-cubed]

Completely legal to defend yourself using standard magazines. If more than one armed intruder showed up armed in my house, more than 10 rounds would likely be necessary to stop them.

But, if you had to defend yourself in a civil suit it complicates things a little. You know the prosecutor would have a field day parading around "military magazines" and an evil-looking rifle and arguing that you used excessive force. This argument would fall flat in a criminal suit but a civil suit isn't as much about proving the need for deadly force as it is the jury's perception.

 

[aspade]

No but under the new bill, using a hi-cap in a crime is an additional charge with a mandatory minimum sentence.

This is one of the scariest pieces of SB 281 and I haven't seen anybody talking about it.

We all know how hostile Maryland is to self defense rights. If there is the slightest question about the circumstance, or maybe even if there isn't, you are going to be arrested and charged. It may not hold up. They will try.

Consider a borderline marginal shoot, or even a no shots fired incident, that gets plead down or convicted at trial to misdemeanor 2nd degree assault. For a first offense with a clean record that would likely mean some combination of probation, PBJ, suspended sentence, fines, possibly some jail but not likely. Not the end of the world by any means.

If you were using a grandfathered weapon or magazine that becomes a non-negotiable 5 year prison sentence.

 

[pbharvey]

This is one of the scariest pieces of SB 281 and I haven't seen anybody talking about it.

We all know how hostile Maryland is to self defense rights. If there is the slightest question about the circumstance, or maybe even if there isn't, you are going to be arrested and charged. It may not hold up. They will try.

Consider a borderline marginal shoot, or even a no shots fired incident, that gets plead down or convicted at trial to misdemeanor 2nd degree assault. For a first offense with a clean record that would likely mean some combination of probation, PBJ, suspended sentence, fines, possibly some jail but not likely. Not the end of the world by any means.

If you were using a grandfathered weapon or magazine that becomes a non-negotiable 5 year prison sentence.

This is my worst fear. A regular Joe gets caught up in this thing. Unintended consequences and all that.

 

[tomgreco]

This is my worst fear. A regular Joe gets caught up in this thing. Unintended consequences and all that.

A shotgun Joe just shoots through the door!

 

[circadia]

Only 3% of shootings result in more than 10 shots fired, and criminals don't know how to reload. Yeah, this bill will greatly reduce crime.

Can you tell me where you found that statistic? I've been looking everywhere for information about that.

 

[drblast33]

Can you tell me where you found that statistic? I've been looking everywhere for information about that.

I think Massad Ayoob has provided similar statistics from NY police stats.

 

[Merlin]

No

The same thinking as using a Standard capacity (30 rd) magazine at the range.

I'm to see your trying to educate as well. Thanks. I feel a high cap mag holds 100 or more rounds. 30 rounds are stock and are considered Standard as you said.