Identify this round and advice.

[platekiller]

Can anyone identify the 9mm ammo I have here? The bullets attract a magnet.

Also it doesn't work, I think bad primers (2 fired out of 10 rounds and we used three different guns). I'm thinking I should just pull the bullets and throw out the powder and case. Advice?



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[-Mil-Surp-Phreak-]

The kind to kill this?

 

[AntiGun]

http://www.gunauction.com/buy/10121...litary/czech-9mm-luger-naboju-vz.-48-330-1950
Czech 9mm Luger naboju vz. 48 330/1950
Full box of Czech 9mm Luger 40 rounds on strippers, I believe to be 1950, ammo stamped 2 50 * triangle.

 

[lsw]

Maybe it's some 9mm submachine gun ammo with hard primers like the Israelis manufacture. It works fine in arms like the Uzi that fire from an open bolt but the primers are too hard to reliably detonate in a pistol.

 

[Baccusboy]

First off, I don't know if I'd recommend shooting that ammo out of your gun, if you don't know more about it.

Second, is that on a stripper clip?

 

[platekiller]

First off, I don't know if I'd recommend shooting that ammo out of your gun, if you don't know more about it.

Second, is that on a stripper clip?

yes it is.

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[platekiller]

Maybe it's some 9mm submachine gun ammo with hard primers like the Israelis manufacture. It works fine in arms like the Uzi that fire from an open bolt but the primers are too hard to reliably detonate in a pistol.

maybe. but it didn't go off from a Sig even after 5+ strikes. anyone have an Uzi to try it on? I a bunch of this ammo

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[El Patron Grande]

El Patron Grande says:

El Patron Grande does not want to be in the same county when you shoot that ammo.

 

[platekiller]

http://www.gunauction.com/buy/10121...litary/czech-9mm-luger-naboju-vz.-48-330-1950
Czech 9mm Luger naboju vz. 48 330/1950
Full box of Czech 9mm Luger 40 rounds on strippers, I believe to be 1950, ammo stamped 2 50 * triangle.

that's it. I'll sell it for $18/ box (like the link).

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[d'Artagnan]

OK, that's a stripper clip for a Model 1912 Steyr Hahn. The original caliber was 9mm Steyr (9x23mm) but during WW2 some Model 1912's were converted to 9mm Luger (9x19mm). Since the Model 1912 doesn't have a detachable magazine, they still had to use the stripper clip to load the conversions despite the case base size difference. The ammo was indeed produced in Czechoslovakia (bxn - Sellier & Bellot, same code used under Nazi occupation) but the pictured box indicates in 1951. Not uncommon, you might want to sell it as collector ammo and buy newly manufactured ammo.

 

[Pinecone]

Also, 1950 ComBloc ammo is likely to be corrosive primers.

 

[platekiller]

OK, that's a stripper clip for a Model 1912 Steyr Hahn. The original caliber was 9mm Steyr (9x23mm) but during WW2 some Model 1912's were converted to 9mm Luger (9x19mm). Since the Model 1912 doesn't have a detachable magazine, they still had to use the stripper clip to load the conversions despite the case base size difference. The ammo was indeed produced in Czechoslovakia (bxn - Sellier & Bellot, same code used under Nazi occupation) but the pictured box indicates in 1951. Not uncommon, you might want to sell it as collector ammo and buy newly manufactured ammo.

I would like to do that or maybe just trade. its a lot less work then pulling the bullets. I think I'll try the classifieds.

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[platekiller]

I am curious about the bullet being magnetic. I may have to cut one to see what its made of.

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[platekiller]

Classifieds ad up.

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[photoracer]

Magnet pickup is likely due to a bi-metal jacket.

 

[platekiller]

Magnet pickup is likely due to a bi-metal jacket.

that's what I thought but I got them from my uncle who liked armour piercing stuff so who knows.

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[outrider58]

Is that yer foot, platekiller?

 

[d'Artagnan]

Be careful what you search for, there might be MORE information.
The stripper clips used in the Model 1912 Steyr Hahn pistol were also used in the Steyr-Solothurn S1-100 submachine gun -- adopted in 9mm Steyr (9x23) as MP.30 by Austrian Police and in 9mm Mauser (9x25) as MP.34 by Austrian military. When Nazi Germany occupied Austria, the MP.30's and MP.34's were converted to 9mm Luger. IMHO your ammo being in 40-round boxes is far more likely for these submachine guns, which had 32-round magazines, than for the 8-round-capacity 1912 Steyr Hahn. Afterall, both the Austrians and Nazis issued 16-round boxes for their pistols and submachine guns. So its hard to fathom what motivated the Czechoslovakians to pack them in 40-round boxes.

 

[platekiller]

Is that yer foot, platekiller?

it's my son's. no one wants to see my foot. I noticed it after I took the pic.

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[rsideout]

The kind to kill this?

Yep. That's what I use.