Isla Vista rampage

[mranaya]

CA gun seizure ongoing CA Attorney General Kamalla Harris

Yea I'm sure the son was perfectly normal before just snapping.

Unfortunately even if the parents reached out to mental health facilities (perhaps they did, we don't know), it's a very high burden to keep someone confined against their will. Years ago these people wouldn't be allowed out in socirty. Freedom has a price, and we should have the freedom to have adequate means (public carry) to protect ourselves.

This is going to fuel CA Attorney General Kamalla Harris' agenda to carry on her current sweep of confiscations. She combined medical records (think Obamacare) with gun registrations (not a joke and not paranoid speculation) and has already begun to send SWAT teams to the homes of lawful citizens. See linked video with Kamalla Harris boasting this proudly.

CA calls this an Armed Prohibited Persons System (APPS) list that Kamella Harris is pushing the Vice President to launch nation wide. One woman (a nurse) suffered from anxiety attacks and self-reported. Kamalla Harris sent armed forces to surround her home and seize hers and her husband's guns, without a means to do the same for actual violent offenders.

Kamalla Harris is sure to turn this month's CA incident (of stabbings and vehicular assaults) into a cautionary tale to support her move to pad statistics showing dangerous guns removed from the streets on her watch.


NRA News | Ginny Simone Special Report: "APPS: California's Universal Registration Scheme" http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DwRvDXq8ft8

 

[swinokur]

Some folks have said the cops blew it because they interviewed him, found nothing wrong and left. His parents blew it. Cops can't know a person's mental state from a 10 minute encounter.

This POS' parents knew his mental state. They were too busy in Hollywood to worry about this ticking time bomb they raised.

Put the blame where it belongs-bad parenting.

 

[Library Guy]

Cognitive Dissonance (California Edition)

Background checks?
Gun registration?
Waiting period?
Assault weapon ban?
Magazine size limit?
Access to mental health professional?
Prescribed anti-depressants?
Police tipped off?

Yes to all.

Mummy & Daddy, of the second tier Hollywood royalty, even gave poor wittle Elliot a BMW. How could this have happened here? Oh, the rednecks in the NRA did it…

 

[jpk1md]

Cognitive Dissonance (California Edition)

Background checks?
Gun registration?
Waiting period?
Assault weapon ban?
Magazine size limit?
Access to mental health professional?
Prescribed anti-depressants?
Police tipped off?

Yes to all.

Mummy & Daddy, of the second tier Hollywood royalty, even gave poor wittle Elliot a BMW. How could this have happened here? Oh, the rednecks in the NRA did it…

http://granitegrok.com/blog/2014/05/notable-quote-jeff-snyder

“To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow… For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding.”

-Jeff Snyder

I think this sums up progressivism and gun control perfectly

 

[Jim Sr]

Yea I'm sure the son was perfectly normal before just snapping.

Unfortunately even if the parents reached out to mental health facilities (perhaps they did, we don't know), it's a very high burden to keep someone confined against their will. Years ago these people wouldn't be allowed out in socirty. Freedom has a price, and we should have the freedom to have adequate means (public carry) to protect ourselves.

When Elliot Rodger's parents realized just how dangerous their disturbed son was, they made a desperate attempt to try to stop him.

His parents' desperate response was just one of many failed chances to stop Rodger, but he never crossed a threshold that would require a legal response.

 

[Huckleberry]

Daddy bought him a BMW and guns but couldn't give the kid a weekend at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch or with some LA call girl?

Also, seems Daddy's favorite pass time was traveling the world and taking pictures of the Step Mommy's naked ass and passing it off as artwork.

 

[swinokur]

30 years agi in Vegas I took a friend to the Bunny Ranch for his pre wedding tube cleaning. There was actually an" Eliot Roger" type of loser kid there who's Mom paid to get his first piece of tail. She even paid for the limo parked out front.

Now that's some good parenting.

 

[xgaspx]

Multiple news outlets have been reporting that Rodgers had around 40 loaded ten-round mags with him when he went on this rampage. Can the anti-gun lobby stop preaching about mag limits as the solution to mass shooting now? I need to cross state lines to Virginia and be made to feel like a criminal just so I can buy a STANDARD 12-round mag for my .40 handgun. Yet this Rodgers kid can still commit mass murder in the state with our nation's most restrictive gun laws. Brilliant.

And, his first victims were killed with edged weapons? Time to legislate the length of kitchen knives used by law-abiding citizens.

 

[Sirex]

More laws, we need more laws. That'll stop all the people that don't follow the law. Because if he didn't have the guns, he would not have killed the people, despite his manifesto stating he wanted to stab, filet, then pour boiling water over his victims skin. I read the manifesto, and like the dad said, it was clear the NRA was behind this. The NRA caused his parents to move to the US, caused his parents to divorce, programmed girls to reject him using brainwaves, erased his ability to even speak to girls, then forced thru his background checks so he could go on the rampage. Then, like Obi Wan Kenobi, the ghost of Charlton Heston appeared before the kid telling him to turn to the dark side. How could we have ever prevented this? Better mental healthcare, or just masking it or sweeping it under the rug? Mental health is a rather taboo subject here in the US, and often misunderstood. I mean, what was the cause of the Colorado theater, Sandy Hook, shootings? Mental health related maybe? I feel sorry for most of the families of the victims, but the dad blaming the NRA (and me as a member), sorry, he can fvck off. I had no responsibility for the fvcknut shooting up everyone.

 

[Stoic58]

<snip>
And, his first victims were killed with edged weapons? Time to legislate the length of kitchen knives used by law-abiding citizens.

That will be next:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_legislation

Great Britain: "...even a folding pocket knife or multi-tool equipped with a blade of less than 3 inches (76 mm) may still be considered an offensive weapon if it has a locking blade."

 

[pbharvey]

psychiatrist-of-isla-vista-killer-revealed-to-be-celebrity-shrink-who-treated-paris-hilton

 

[jc1240]

Cross-post from the water cooler thread...

Small world - part of this happened right in front of my niece's apartment (about to graduate from UCSB). One of the victims was my niece's sorority sister. My niece was home at the time and hunkered down and is ok except for losing a friend and what that brings.

 

[myright]

some of the "facts" one person he murdered was killed by his car.Two were stabbed, The others were shot including the murderer. Not alleged gunman THE gunman.

 

[Ranger Tom]

Sorry, Mr. and Mrs. Rodgers.... Your son turned out to be a psychopathic killer because YOU RAISED A ****ING MONSTER. But it must make you feel good, to be able to blame someone else for YOUR FAILURE.

Go **** yourselves... and hopefully, some day, you can join your son in hell.

Succinct and to the point

(Couldn't resist the film critics rating)

 

[Maestro Pistolero]

I'm not ready to blame the killer's parents quite yet. I have seen many perfectly attentive, loving, dedicated parents end up with a bad egg. Let's not forget they DID report their son's aberrant behavior to the police, who visited him, deeming him a "nice young man" (or something to that effect).

One thing that is common to all but one of the mass shootings in recent couple of years is there were reported signs of concern for the safety of individuals around each of these criminals, they were exhibiting violent tendencies, and little or nothing was done about it.

These tragedies, however horrible, are statistic anomalies, made to seem more common place by the amount of round-the-clock news stories that sometimes run for weeks or months.

The fact that they are so rare is of no comfort to the victims and families, of course.

My point is that ignorant and ideologically driven antis would have us up-end and create national and state policies affecting hundreds of millions of people based on the horrible acts of a few mentally ill individuals. These proponents of new gun laws have seemingly found an insanity all their own.

In America we don't set the bar for liberty based on the craven acts of criminally insane individuals. To do so would amount to a thieve's veto of the fundamental right to bear arms.

 

[Jim Sr]

When Elliot Rodger turned 19 in 2011, he decided that if he couldn't find "love, sex, friends, fun, acceptance, (and) a sense of belonging" in two years, then he would have his "Day of Retribution," his manifesto/memoir reveals.

Path to Massacre Lined With Lotto Tickets​

 

[Jim Sr]

Samuel Wurzelbacher, perhaps better known as Joe the Plumber, watched Richard Martinez sobbing over the shooting death of his only son in the Isla Vista rampage, and responded thusly in an open letter on Barbwire.com:

AN OPEN LETTER: To the parents of the victims murdered by Elliot Rodger​

 

[Sirex]

Looks like the military has the solution;
http://www.newser.com/story/187509/...rt&utm_medium=united&utm_campaign=rss_topnews

 

[Jim Sr]

Sorry, Mr. and Mrs. Rodgers.... Your son turned out to be a psychopathic killer because YOU RAISED A ****ING MONSTER. But it must make you feel good, to be able to blame someone else for YOUR FAILURE.

Go **** yourselves... and hopefully, some day, you can join your son in hell.

For the parents of Elliot Rodger, their son's mental health was always a concern
.

Rodger's Parents Knew He Was Mentally Ill by Age 8​

 

[mranaya]

These tragedies, however horrible, are statistic anomalies, made to seem more common place by the amount of round-the-clock news stories that sometimes run for weeks or months.

The fact that they are so rare is of no comfort to the victims and families, of course.

Media's battle cry has long been, "If it bleeds, it leads". The continuous, around-the-clock coverage of these incidents demonstrate that, to media, these killings are the best thing that could have happened to a reporter. They keep their faces on the air by repeating "what a tragedy", and rehashing the same "breaking news" without adding a scrap of new information. The saddest day for these reporters is the day their station orders them home.

When a few young, entitled, disaffected youths see the attention garnered by these pathetic loser mass murderers, some apparently start drafting manifestos. When the cycle repeats, media feign distress and sadness, all the while mumbling over and over in their heads, "This is my big day. This is my big day. This is my big day".