legality of home defense with firearm

[Bullfrog]

Shoot the Molotov

schieß dem fenster!

 

[Blaster229]

Any lawyers local in MD that are well versed in dealing with these type of situations besides a company like US Lawshield?

How much money do you have to give a lawyer a retainer? 30,40k? Then how about bail money? Another 100k? How about crime scene clean up or money to purchase another firearm while yours is in evidence jail?
It's pretty easy to find 500 bucks a year to not have to worry about that.

 

[Bullfrog]

I have CCWSafe. They are completely funded. I don't know the technical term, but they don't rely on some 3rd party insurance company that may change their mind. They also are the only company who had successfully won in an actual self defense case.

Yes I did, at the time. They offered extensive coverage, and still send me regular posts regarding SD cases and the law.

I admit I do not know whether they actually deliver. Anyone who can dig up that info and post it here will receive my unsolicited admiration and gratitude.

Thanks, I'll look into it.

 

[toppkatt]

Shoot the Molotov

That's what uncle Joe B says... that and shoot them in the leg, maybe in this case just go for the arm, that is the one holding the cocktail.

 

[Pale Ryder]

A scenario my kids brought up while watching the riots:

What if someone is outside your house and preparing to throw a molotov cocktail at the home. What now?

Creepy Joe says shoot em in the leg, I say shoot the bottle. J/K, sorta.

 

[adit]

First of all, you don't use lethal force to prevent them from coming in. Maryland believes if you do, you put yourself in the situation to use deadly force which otherwise may have been prevented.
No shooting someone through your door while they're on the porch, etc... You approaching someone rooting through your shed and they come at you with an axe, and you shoot them, is s justified shoot usually, but Maryland will say you put yourself in that situation.
Don't let machismo lead you out there, because you will be charged.
Many self defense cowboys here will say otherwise. They let their emotions dictate their actions.
MD has the Castle Doctrine. You're justified to use lethal force without having to retreat to avoid using that force. However, you still need to satisfy the 3 pillars of self defense,
Means, opportunity, and intent from the threat.
I'm not typing all that out from my cell phone.

Good luck.

The only thing you left out was STFU and don't answer any questions. Let your lawyer make your statement.

 

[Blaster229]

The only thing you left out was STFU and don't answer any questions. Let your lawyer make your statement.

You can give a modicum of what happened.
Especially if someone escaped and proceeded in "that direction".

 

[THier]

A scenario my kids brought up while watching the riots:

What if someone is outside your house and preparing to throw a molotov cocktail at the home. What now?

Wait till its over their head, shoot bottle, grab popcorn.

 

[Ellis Gordon]

Self Defense in Maryland

Please review: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_self-defense_in_Maryland

 

[Sirex]

Yes, but they are outside the home. Can you imagine Marilyn Mosby agreeing it was a clean shoot?

It's interesting you brought that up, and it was a concern, or rather scenario I had thought about. Even if we were able to fend off rioters, I figured spite would come into play and they would try to burn us out of our home. My plan has been to use the .22 to shoot the bottle as they light it, or reel back to throw. At the point we are under attack, legality won't be my primary concern, as would survival. If they are lighting a cocktail to throw, my assumption would be if we fled out of the home, they would be waiting for me or my family and attack. I also thought about skeet shooting, if it made it into the air. My last resort is I have quite a few fire extinguishers in the home. Abandoning the home would also be a last resort should they not work. I put nothing past these evil people. If it comes down to it, it is fight or die.

 

[outrider58]

With some of us here, taking all the weapons will require overtime and a U Haul....

...and maybe a mine sweeper...

 

[teratos]

It's interesting you brought that up, and it was a concern, or rather scenario I had thought about. Even if we were able to fend off rioters, I figured spite would come into play and they would try to burn us out of our home. My plan has been to use the .22 to shoot the bottle as they light it, or reel back to throw. At the point we are under attack, legality won't be my primary concern, as would survival. If they are lighting a cocktail to throw, my assumption would be if we fled out of the home, they would be waiting for me or my family and attack. I also thought about skeet shooting, if it made it into the air. My last resort is I have quite a few fire extinguishers in the home. Abandoning the home would also be a last resort should they not work. I put nothing past these evil people. If it comes down to it, it is fight or die.

Yep, keep your family safe first and worry about consequences later.

...and maybe a mine sweeper...

There is always someone out there with cooler shit than I have....

 

[daNattyFatty]

How much money do you have to give a lawyer a retainer? 30,40k? Then how about bail money? Another 100k? How about crime scene clean up or money to purchase another firearm while yours is in evidence jail?
It's pretty easy to find 500 bucks a year to not have to worry about that.

Just curious, what’s your preferred method of carry?


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[Blaster229]

Just curious, what’s your preferred method of carry?


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G43X IWB in a Vedder light tuck.

 

[teratos]

This sums it up, right?

 

[outrider58]

This sums it up, right?

Yeah, pretty much...

 

[Pinecone]

The castle doctrine in Maryland states that when a person is inside their home, they do not have to retreat. A homeowner is allowed to stand their ground and attempt to defend themselves against an intruder, as long as the use of force is reasonable.

Maryland also has a duty to retreat law that states if a person is defending themselves outside of their home, they have a duty to retreat.

Again, neither are codified in the actual law.

Only via rule of common law and case precedents.

 

[Biggfoot44]

I believe the term Orig Mex Bob had in mind was * Reasonable & Prudent *

In much of the discussion here generally , there is confusion over the work " Fear " .

There is distinction between " Bare Fear " , think pure panic and " Reasonable Fear " . Think in terms of a Reason and Prudent belief that ( abc situiation ) could likely result in ( xyz bad consequences ) . In this discussion would relate to an articulable reasoning of pending threat of Death, or Serious Bodily Injury .

 

[Blaster229]

Again, neither are codified in the actual law.



Only via rule of common law and case precedents.

It doesn't matter. The bottom line is that there is no longer a duty to retreat in your own home. Which I believe had been the case since about 1966.

 

[Dal1as]

Anybody remember the Pinkerton case?