M856 Tracer Powder Question

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  • I read from many sources that H335 is the go-to powder for getting them to light reliably. I have on hand a good supply of Shooter's World Tactical Rifle (SWTR), which is considered to be the H335 burn rate equivalent. That being said, H335 is a flake powder and SWTR is a fine ball powder.
    My question is whether the burn rate or powder type is the bigger determining factor in getting tracers to light.
    Normally I would simply try a few out with the SWTR, but I am very limited on where I can fire tracer rounds.
     

    outrider58

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    I read from many sources that H335 is the go-to powder for getting them to light reliably. I have on hand a good supply of Shooter's World Tactical Rifle (SWTR), which is considered to be the H335 burn rate equivalent. That being said, H335 is a flake powder and SWTR is a fine ball powder.
    My question is whether the burn rate or powder type is the bigger determining factor in getting tracers to light.
    Normally I would simply try a few out with the SWTR, but I am very limited on where I can fire tracer rounds.
    If you can't get a definitive answer, I would recommend a hotter primer for the spherical, which is often recommended.

    ETA: I just checked; my H335 is spherical.
     
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    outrider58

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    The SWTR is very fine, not unlike H110/W296. I thought H335 was small flakes.
    I have a decent stash of SRMP I use in my Grendel.
    It appears to be a blend of ball(90%) and disc(10%). I'd load it as ball(spherical).

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    mtlcafan79

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    H335 has no flash suppressant in it. I would assume that's why it's recommend to get tracers to light. SWTR is flash suppressed so it might not work as well. One way to find out!
     

    Uncle Duke

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    H335 is ball (spherical) powder.

    "Ball" is a trademark name for Olin Corporation. Hodgdon typically uses the term "spherical". Nothing like keeping things clear as mud, right?

    I have never loaded a round of tracer in my life. So sorry SG, no help with that.

    To Outrider's mention though, some load data (most notably SPEER) will generally recommend a magnum primer with (typically considered harder to ignite) ball powders generally. Other industry recognized data sources do not, and will specify standard primers.

    Now I wouldn't swap primers indiscriminately or interchangeably. But if you DO find that you have a problem with tracer ignition, next step may well be load redevelopment (this time working up and using a magnum primer). May prove to be worthwhile.
     

    Rockzilla

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    H335, H322 would give you the best results, tried it and they lite. Now on the other hand
    WC-844 works great, and WC-844T (for tracers). Still have quite a bit WC-844. But did do
    some testing years ago 335 / 322 worked, using them as an alternative to the 844.

    WC-846 / 846T work good for 7.62 tracers

    -Rock
     

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