MA banned rifle reinterpretation, interchangeable parts = banned

[Kharn]

From the attorney general of MA:

The Massachusetts assault weapons ban mirrors the federal ban Congress allowed to expire in 2004. It prohibits the sale of specific weapons like the Colt AR-15 and AK-47 and explicitly bans “copies or duplicates” of those weapons. But gun manufacturers have taken it upon themselves to define what a “copy” or “duplicate” weapon is. They market “state compliant” copycat versions of their assault weapons to Massachusetts buyers. They sell guns without a flash suppressor or folding or telescoping stock, for example, small tweaks that do nothing to limit the lethalness of the weapon.

That will end now. On Wednesday, we are sending a directive to all gun manufacturers and dealers that makes clear that the sale of these copycat assault weapons is illegal in Massachusetts. With this directive, we will ensure we get the full protection intended when lawmakers enacted our assault weapons ban, not the watered-down version of those protections offered by gun manufacturers.

The directive specifically outlines two tests to determine what constitutes a “copy” or “duplicate” of a prohibited weapon. If a gun’s operating system is essentially the same as that of a banned weapon, or if the gun has components that are interchangeable with those of a banned weapon, it’s a “copy” or “duplicate,” and it is illegal. Assault weapons prohibited under our laws cannot be altered in any way to make their sale or possession legal in Massachusetts.

So they banned firearms by features, now if you cut off those features, it's still banned...

 

[Doctor_M]

Doubling down on tyranny.

 

[AssMan]

Frosh is pissed he didn't think of this first.

 

[tkd4life]

From the attorney general of MA:



So they banned firearms by features, now if you cut off those features, it's still banned...

Yea, so they are basically saying that any semi-auto rifle made in the last 20 years is banned. Since they use the operating system as a qualifier, that makes things very interesting. For the most part, operating systems tend to be similar. Way to similar to put it up to a lawyer to argue in court.

 

[danb]

Maryland will not be far behind.

If Trump loses y'all can forget about the 2nd amendment for the next half century.

 

[krucam]

Time to buy stock in Ruger, maker of the Mini 14 and 30...

 

[ELEMENT94]

We will probably be next.

 

[Kharn]

There were Minis made with flash hiders, bayonet lugs, and folding stocks. "GB series" is their common name.

 

[danb]

There were Minis made with flash hiders, bayonet lugs, and folding stocks. "GB series" is their common name.

These are banned in MD "Ruger mini 14 folding stock model."

The perennial question around MD is whether when you take a regular ranch rifle (no flash hider + 1.5" longer barrel) and put a folding stock on it, you have made a more eviller scary black rifle.

 

[Doctor_M]

By the MA AG's own admission, "features" don't change the inherent lethality of the weapon.... and of course he is correct. So 'splain to me why politicians have been so wrapped up about bayonet lugs and flash hiders, and folding stocks for the last 30 years. It has always boggled my mind. This is the same kind of logic that says it's OK to own a heavy barrel but not a standard barrel AR... or that you can't have a semi auto AK, but you are still good to go to buy an class 3 Kalashnikov.... the lack of logic hurts my head.

 

[BeoBill]

OK, so we know of one draft bill to be proposed for the upcoming MGA session. Any sign suggestions?

 

[zoostation]

so in other words the MAsshole AG doesn't care what the law says. They're just going to declare guns illegal by fiat.

 

[fidelity]

By the MA AG's own admission, "features" don't change the inherent lethality of the weapon.... and of course he is correct. So 'splain to me why politicians have been so wrapped up about bayonet lugs and flash hiders, and folding stocks for the last 30 years. It has always boggled my mind. This is the same kind of logic that says it's OK to own a heavy barrel but not a standard barrel AR... or that you can't have a semi auto AK, but you are still good to go to buy an class 3 Kalashnikov.... the lack of logic hurts my head.

A few reasons.

One, politicians are lazy. They want to give the appearance of doing something without having to do the homework of actually doing something. That's why they'll take an outdated ban list rather than think it through. They also are cynical enough to know that they're not solving anything, just faking it for their constituents.

Two, politics is also the art of compromise, so for some, even if they know the legislation won't increase safety and are doing it for the votes, they'll throw us a bone even if we are a small faction (so HBARs stay cash and carry so competitive shooters have a semiautomatic rifle platform). Politicians instinctively want to be liked and pretend they're on everyone's side.

Three, there was a brief period when pols thought outright bans might not withstand legal scrutiny.

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[EL1227]

so in other words the MAsshole AG doesn't care what the law says. They're just going to declare guns illegal by fiat.

hmmmm ...

Do any of the extra-lethal 'accouterments' noted in the MA law, or its interpretation by their AG look like THESE ? Seems to me that MA's AG should be focusing his efforts to protect his citizens in other areas.

 

[Kharn]

 

[BeoBill]

hmmmm ...

Do any of the extra-lethal 'accouterments' noted in the MA law, or its interpretation by their AG look like THESE ? Seems to me that MA's AG should be focusing his efforts to protect his citizens in other areas.

Too hard; brain cells would be dying from overwork...

 

[Kharn]

Official notice

 

[TapRackBang]

Time to buy stock in Ruger, maker of the Mini 14 and 30...

Nope. It has screws in it. Interchangeable part. BANNED!

 

[fightinbluhen51]

Time for more civil disobedience.

 

[TapRackBang]

Looks like the answer might be bullet buttons:

provided, however, that the term assault weapon shall not include:
[...]
vi. any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; or