MD SBR 29" question...

[Kharn]

Has anyone SBR'ed an AR using a KaliKey? (changes the charging handle and bolt carrier key to make it a straight-pull bolt action)
Application wording suggestions?

I guess I could silver solder flash cans (advertised as not reducing flash signature) onto firearms that only need a few extra inches.
But the really short blow-back 9mms are in a bit of a pickle.

 

[Trumpet]

This is the text guidance I was given on this forum, don't recall the source but it worked for me to get an approved less than 29" OAL rimfire SBR, in this case it was a Ruger Charger 22.

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The following statements or something similar, should be annotated in the correct sections on the Form 1, for rimfire SBR's less then 29 inches. There is also character limitations, so use your words carefully and be aware of which boxes can take new-lines on the online form.

4h. Additional Description:
<trust name>, <city> <state abbreviation>
22LR RIMFIRE CALIBER CARTRIDGE, IN ACCORDANCE WITH MD LAW. <---new-line

4i. State Why You Intend To Make Firearm.
TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH MD CRIMINAL LAW ARTICLE 4-301.
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I'll make sure I add that exact verbiage. Anyone else SBR a 15-22? Curious as to what you wrote

 

[05dodgedaytona]

Following.

 

[jrumann59]

Has anyone SBR'ed an AR using a KaliKey? (changes the charging handle and bolt carrier key to make it a straight-pull bolt action)
Application wording suggestions?

I guess I could silver solder flash cans (advertised as not reducing flash signature) onto firearms that only need a few extra inches.
But the really short blow-back 9mms are in a bit of a pickle.

PCC setups if short enough may have to drop "stocks" and stay "pistols" and end with a Han Solo type blaster setup and look.

 

[teratos]

PCC setups if short enough may have to drop "stocks" and stay "pistols" and end with a Han Solo type blaster setup and look.

 

[Trumpet]

Finally got to pick it up...."used"

 

[Trumpet]

This is the text guidance I was given on this forum, don't recall the source but it worked for me to get an approved less than 29" OAL rimfire SBR, in this case it was a Ruger Charger 22.

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The following statements or something similar, should be annotated in the correct sections on the Form 1, for rimfire SBR's less then 29 inches. There is also character limitations, so use your words carefully and be aware of which boxes can take new-lines on the online form.

4h. Additional Description:
<trust name>, <city> <state abbreviation>
22LR RIMFIRE CALIBER CARTRIDGE, IN ACCORDANCE WITH MD LAW. <---new-line

4i. State Why You Intend To Make Firearm.
TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH MD CRIMINAL LAW ARTICLE 4-301.
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Would you add those while doing the firearm info? I added both as separate lines after "All legal purposes". Would I also add that in "electric documents", after the line item page?

 

[calicojack]

Would you add those while doing the firearm info? I added both as separate lines after "All legal purposes". Would I also add that in "electric documents", after the line item page?

I need to go back and see what I did. Be right back!

 

[calicojack]

Would you add those while doing the firearm info? I added both as separate lines after "All legal purposes". Would I also add that in "electric documents", after the line item page?

In Description:
PRODUCT TYPE IS SHORT BARRELED RIFLE : BLAH BLAH NFA TRUST, SOMEWHERE, MD
22LR RIMFIRE CALIBER CARTRIDGE, IN ACCORDANCE WITH MD LAW.

In State Why You Intend To Make Firearm:
TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH MD CRIMINAL LAW ARTICLE 4-301.

 

[Bafflingbs]

I submitted my pre 2013 LBR lower, as a short barrel 9mm. The lower is attached to a .556 rifle, right now. I shouldn’t have a problem, should I? The OAL will be 23”. But again, I’ve owned and had it registered, prior to 2013. ?????

 

[swinokur]

If it wasn’t a 556 before 2013 you might be in trouble. You MADE a <29 SBR of 556 caliber after 2013

But IANAL

 

[Bafflingbs]

If it wasn’t a 556 before 2013 you might be in trouble. You MADE a <29 SBR of 556 caliber after 2013

But IANAL

It’s always been a 5.56. It actually has a riffle length barrel on it now. Putting a 9mm upper on it

 

[outrider58]

I submitted my pre 2013 LBR lower, as a short barrel 9mm. The lower is attached to a .556 rifle, right now. I shouldn’t have a problem, should I? The OAL will be 23”. But again, I’ve owned and had it registered, prior to 2013. ?????

The minute you "make" an SBR your old lower becomes a new gun(SBR). So it's a no-go under 29".

Now if it was already an SBR prior to the ban, you would be GTG.

 

[Bafflingbs]

The minute you "make" an SBR your old lower becomes a new gun(SBR). So it's a no-go under 29".

Now if it was already an SBR prior to the ban, you would be GTG.

Great

 

[outrider58]

Great

Lol. If it worked like that, we'd all be SBRing all our old ARs!

 

[RRomig]

Pistol braces have been around before 2013 so if you had bought a lower and built it into a pistol then you’re good. If you bought a complete rifle no good.

 

[swinokur]

That’s what I did a crappy job of explaining. If you MAKE it after 2013 it’s a no go

 

[Bafflingbs]

Ok, gotcha. I bought it as a stripped lower. Does that help?

 

[Butch Bland]

Yep. Here are two additional 22LR uppers I run on one of my 5.56 SBRs. Suppressor tucked under the hand guard.

View attachment 394301

How do you like that scope? I just got a Vortex 412 40 for my M&P 15!!!

 

[outrider58]

Pistol braces have been around before 2013 so if you had bought a lower and built it into a pistol then you’re good. If you bought a complete rifle no good.

He'd still come up short by 6"