Moorish Americans take over a rural gun range, sparking a strange showdown

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  • traveller

    The one with two L
    Nov 26, 2010
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    *****Years ago, one of my police officer friends from the range had a pretty scary situation with one of these "Moorish Americans". He pulled over a car with *no tags*, only to have this Moorish American guy tell him about sovereignty, etc.. and then a bunch of other cars/vans showed up with more of these Moore's, who were *armed* and got out of the car to confront the officer and try and get their now pulled over guy out of the situation. Very very scary for the officer and he called in backup, who called in even more backup. They arrested several of the people involved, as they didn't have licenses, and a couple had outstanding warrants, etc..

    Scary group of people.

    Was that up in Harford Co ?
     

    Stoveman

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    Sep 2, 2013
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    less than 5 acres, house is 2.0 adjoining lot is 2.8. Lot size is not a detriment in current county zoning though. Shooting was not confined to their property. Chantel Manley is/was a c&w instructor for Md. using this location for the live fire portion.
    The group recorded some of their unlawful traffic stop.

    The comments..... :lol2: :rofl:

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    daNattyFatty

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    Aug 27, 2009
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    Bel Air, MD
    These people hit me as a bunch of antagonistic nuts - strictly my opinion..

    No opinion disclaimer needed.

    Many take up the moorish or sovereign citizen schtick to get over on the system for as long as possible.

    The true believers, though, are most certainly dangerous nutjobs.


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    MaxVO2

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    Was that up in Harford Co ?

    ****I don't know the area well, but it was I think in Havre de Grace area by Route 40. There are or were several groups of these folks there, and they seem quite militant, well armed, and do not seem to like the police, or law enforcement in general. Really seem like an odd bunch with no discernible means of support, or jobs, etc.. No idea how they live or make money, etc..
     

    BFMIN

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    traveller

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    ****I don't know the area well, but it was I think in Havre de Grace area by Route 40. There are or were several groups of these folks there, and they seem quite militant, well armed, and do not seem to like the police, or law enforcement in general. Really seem like an odd bunch with no discernible means of support, or jobs, etc.. No idea how they live or make money, etc..

    Yeah. Same incident.

    It's part of their shtick. Drive around without license plates and once you get pulled over 'muscle' shows up. Probably hoping to provoke something they can turn into money.
     

    haoleboy

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    This hits pretty close to home. The guy with the cows and farm that adjoins that property is my FIL.

    Weird thing about the article, they said the house was searched on the morning of 12/21. My FIL called me about 4pm in the afternoon of 12/21 to tell me that a CCSO Sgt, 1 FBI agent, and 1 ATF agent, visited him on his farm late morning that day. They asked my FIL a bunch of questions about what had been going on and took a tour of the farm to check the timber and bullet damage to a few of his barns and outbuildings. The FBI also asked to wrap some trees with plastic to see if the shooting continued to cross property lines.

    CCSO has been dragging their feet for over a year on this. When it first started, they went down to talk to the guy and were told they were a Sovern Black Militia. I think the CCSO was scared and didn't visit the Moors anymore no matter how often my FIL called when bullets were landing on his farm property.

    Scary all around. My wife is scared they will try and get retribution on her father. :( I hate to say I am also a little worried.
     

    traveller

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    CCSO has been dragging their feet for over a year on this. When it first started, they went down to talk to the guy and were told they were a Sovern Black Militia. I think the CCSO was scared and didn't visit the Moors anymore no matter how often my FIL called when bullets were landing on his farm property.

    The sheriff's position is that he has no statutory authority to tell someone they can't shoot on their property and that it is a zoning and permitting issue. Same thing as the time when someone wanted to open a ghetto titty-bar in the old Mamma Lucia in Bryan's Road. All the Karens wanted the sheriff to 'do something' and he told them that he has no authority to tell someone not to show their coochie as Chuck Co has no law against it. Only after the county got an injunction based on zoning and code issues, he was able to enforce the no trespass order.
     

    haoleboy

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    The sheriff's position is that he has no statutory authority to tell someone they can't shoot on their property and that it is a zoning and permitting issue. Same thing as the time when someone wanted to open a ghetto titty-bar in the old Mamma Lucia in Bryan's Road. All the Karens wanted the sheriff to 'do something' and he told them that he has no authority to tell someone not to show their coochie as Chuck Co has no law against it. Only after the county got an injunction based on zoning and code issues, he was able to enforce the no trespass order.
    They have the authority when the shooting is putting others at risk.
     

    Slackdaddy

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    Jan 1, 2019
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    Just a new angle on avoiding getting a job and supporting yourself.
    There was another group calling themselves "Black Israelites" ,, 5-6 motley looking losers, they would stand on the corner insulting everyone who would walk by,, hoping someone would take a swing, so they could sue.

    There is nothing new here,, same story, different actors (lazy a$$es)
     

    traveller

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    They have the authority when the shooting is putting others at risk.

    You would think.

    He can tell an individual to stop shooting or arrest them for reckless endangerment. His position was that he has no power to stop the operation of the range per se as it is a civil matter. Now that there is a court order he can enforce it.
     

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