MSI v. Hogan - The Challenge Against the Handgun Qualification License Proceeds
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No, I have never received any notice. They don't do a good job on membership renewal in my experience. OTOH, I just got a notice reminding me to renew my fishing license. WTF?
I'm good with my MSI Membership until August.
Question - is there any meaning to the various levels of membership? What is an executive membership, or a Corporate membership? Are there any perqs to the upgrade, or is it mostly just a bigger monetary donation?
Bertfish
Throw bread on me
I asked last June. No difference other than how generous you're feeling
Now that the case is in the hands of the judges, what's the timeline we're looking at? Does anyone think that the case will get remanded back down to the next lower court?
King of COD
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Ha. I was shocked to get a renewal notice on my W&C!
Bertfish
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Judge Barbara Milano Keenan was the female judge on the panel today - she seemed to think that the case should be remanded back down.
Based on what I heard today, I think it will be 2/1 in our favor - she seemed to be working to try to help counsel for Maryland make his argument.
If the HQL is overturned, that's an awesome step forward, but sad that it took a full decade and precedent of a major SCOTUS decision to undo it.
When it gets overturned, I'm going to ceremoniously burn my HQL card.
Bertfish
Throw bread on me
Well yes she kept bringing it up. But the state and MSI counsel did not
Was thinking the same thing, but then I realized I have some youngsters in the family who are currently too young to understand, so I'll be hanging on to my card to show them tyranny can be beaten back.
Excellent hearing. Clearly Justice Keenan was guiding the State's attorney Dietrich. (sp?) It looks like those that oppose the 2nd Amendment protected civil right to self-defense in and outside the home are going to try to hitch their wagon to the fictional star called the "Footnote 9 Exception" or "Footnote 9 Test". I'm glad justices Agee and Richardson pointed out the other 50 pages of Bruen decision, and the very clear prescriptions contained therein.
I'm also glad that the MSI attorney pointed out that the concurring opinion input from Kavanaugh and Roberts does not control. Those two justices signed onto the majority opinion; and the majority opinion is what controls Bruen, not the concurrences. Waldstreicher and the Bloomberg funded and mal-practicing "expert" from Everytown tried the same argumentation while testifying during the SB-1 public hearing.
I'm also glad that the MSI attorney pointed out that the concurring opinion input from Kavanaugh and Roberts does not control. Those two justices signed onto the majority opinion; and the majority opinion is what controls Bruen, not the concurrences. Waldstreicher and the Bloomberg funded and mal-practicing "expert" from Everytown tried the same argumentation while testifying during the SB-1 public hearing.
So I was not imagining things. TY.
- Mar 22, 2019
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Excellent observations and comment.
You had the AAG’s name right in today’s argument.
My bad, I was expecting AAG Scott to argue for MD this morning, and phonetically misspelled Dietrich’s name In my post.
Instead it was:
RYAN R. DIETRICH
Assistant Attorney General
I wonder if AAG Scott got benched after his disrespectful argument to the 4th Circuit panel in “Bianchi.”
Bertfish
Throw bread on me
Where'd you gather his argument in Bianchi was disrespectful? Curious
No indeed, you were not imagining anything. I think when listening to Everytown funded testimony, both in court and in the legislature, we must all be prepared to hear about Bloomberg's bizarro universe where "comparative time-space burdens" bend reality to conform to the fiction of his and his underlings' warped interpretation of reality.
This is me listening to the State's attorney today, and to Waldstreicher during the past week:
- Mar 22, 2019
- 2,365
I criticized AAG Scott in a post in the “Bianchi” thread here:
Supreme Court remits MD assault weapons ban back to lower courts in light of Bruen vs. NY ruling
You may disagree but I think had the Democrats held the House, we'd see filibuster reform. I think we'd either see a requirement it physically be done, or something like the majority party can designate 3 bills a year as filibuster exempt. Sent from my SM-S918U1 using Tapatalk I actually...
The “Four Boxes Diner” interview here (next post) explains the Scott/Frosh tactics:
Supreme Court remits MD assault weapons ban back to lower courts in light of Bruen vs. NY ruling
You may disagree but I think had the Democrats held the House, we'd see filibuster reform. I think we'd either see a requirement it physically be done, or something like the majority party can designate 3 bills a year as filibuster exempt. Sent from my SM-S918U1 using Tapatalk I actually...
And yes, I am biased.
Thanks.
Irony: Dietrich is an anagram for "Tried Chi". I think this poor fellow Dietrich went to court today hoping that the state's argumentation could stand by using positive, vital energy and force (Chi / 氣) to defend the regulation's legitimacy, and then carry the day. I believe he was attempting a rhetorical and legal version of this:
Unfortunately, the law and it's defender attorney was ill-equipped for the response, which from all appearances included a deft "monkey steals the peach" maneuver from MSI's attorney, as well as more than a few peach steals from the bench. Ouch.
I don't think these Maryland laws are as robust as one Buck Shelford. I believe today we all learned that if one wishes to avoid the courtroom Monkey Paw, Tiger Claw Fist and Iron Hand and subsequent theft of the regulatory peach, it might just be a lot easier to defer to the clear text meaning of the 2nd Amendment when crafting and defending laws. Only create laws that can withstand Monkey Steals the Peach. When in legislative chambers and in the courts, don't wade into history and tradition. Keep it simple to the plain text meaning; and keep the peach.
Thanks.
Irony: Dietrich is an anagram for "Tried Chi". I think this poor fellow Dietrich went to court today hoping that the state's argumentation could stand by using positive, vital energy and force (Chi / 氣) to defend the regulation's legitimacy, and then carry the day. I believe he was attempting a rhetorical and legal version of this:
Unfortunately, the law and it's defender attorney was ill-equipped for the response, which from all appearances included a deft "monkey steals the peach" maneuver from MSI's attorney, as well as more than a few peach steals from the bench. Ouch.
I don't think these Maryland laws are as robust as one Buck Shelford. I believe today we all learned that if one wishes to avoid the courtroom Monkey Paw, Tiger Claw Fist and Iron Hand and subsequent theft of the regulatory peach, it might just be a lot easier to defer to the clear text meaning of the 2nd Amendment when crafting and defending laws. Only create laws that can withstand Monkey Steals the Peach. When in legislative chambers and in the courts, don't wade into history and tradition. Keep it simple to the plain text meaning; and keep the peach.
That was a peach of a post.
