MSP almost caught up on backlog?

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  • ironpony

    Member
    MDS Supporter
    Jun 8, 2013
    7,302
    Davidsonville
    I called my FFL about a 7/15 app, they said a few we're trickling in with No real order as to when the app was filed or type of gun or who the applicant was. This info was offered, I did not ask so it seemed they thought it unusual. Just my opinion on their thoughts though.
     

    The sphinx

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 27, 2013
    1,458
    Delaware
    Does anyone know if those with HQL are in line with everyone else or are they moved to the front? Its been about a month that they have been around and am curious if there are two lines at the MSP.

    Yes the HQL are first inline. Confirmed by IP's here as well as my dealer. The sole purpose of pushing the HQL's through first is for Maryland to say and have proof that no infringement is taking place come the trial. Assholes!
     

    Objee

    Active Member
    Oct 3, 2013
    620
    Does anyone know if those with HQL are in line with everyone else or are they moved to the front? Its been about a month that they have been around and am curious if there are two lines at the MSP.

    Yes the HQL are first inline. Confirmed by IP's here as well as my dealer. The sole purpose of pushing the HQL's through first is for Maryland to say and have proof that no infringement is taking place come the trial. Assholes!

    They might be "first in line" if their purchase was after 10/1, but I don't think it speeds up the MSP's 77 ND processing for pre-10/1 purchases at all.

    I have a pre-10/1 purchase and a HQL---no ND paperwork yet (~60 days).

    Lucky for me, the "limited-release FFL" I used for an out-of-state transfer released it without the ND, specifically because I had the HQL.

    I can only surmise he accepted the HQL background check as essentially the same as the MSP background check.
     

    The sphinx

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 27, 2013
    1,458
    Delaware
    They might be "first in line" if their purchase was after 10/1, but I don't think it speeds up the MSP's 77 ND processing for pre-10/1 purchases at all.

    I have a pre-10/1 purchase and a HQL---no ND paperwork yet (~60 days).

    Lucky for me, the "limited-release FFL" I used for an out-of-state transfer released it without the ND, specifically because I had the HQL.

    I can only surmise he accepted the HQL background check as essentially the same as the MSP background check.

    That's correct post 10/1 HQL
     
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    JettaRed

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 13, 2013
    1,138
    Middletown
    High fives in Annapolis! They took the number of apps from 1125 per day on 10/2 to only 45 apps per day on 11/8.

    (I know it's not a realistic comparison before everyone starts explaining why the numbers were so high on 10/2. It would be interesting to compare to the rate a year ago.)


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    danb

    dont be a dumbass
    Feb 24, 2013
    22,704
    google is your friend, I am not.
    High fives in Annapolis! They took the number of apps from 1125 per day on 10/2 to only 45 apps per day on 11/8.

    (I know it's not a realistic comparison before everyone starts explaining why the numbers were so high on 10/2. It would be interesting to compare to the rate a year ago.)


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    Is there some time limit or "statute of limitations" for lack of a better term after which the state essentially waives their right to do these? Hypothetically, at 45 per day, it could be over a year before the mid-late Sept apps are processed. With the holidays, and i suspect there may be some budget issues with so much overtime burned early in the year, upcoming primaries consuming resources...

    At what point would a court say, nope sorry MD you lost your chance to disapprove?
     

    JettaRed

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 13, 2013
    1,138
    Middletown
    By law, seven days.

    Well, actually, I'm not sure since they can knock on your door any time they decide you shouldn't have a gun.


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    Magnumst

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 26, 2013
    1,253
    Just got a call from a member I purchased a handgun from that my ND papers from 6/25 just came back. Their on a roll now!:sad20:
     

    rcpd34

    Peoples Republic Maryland
    Jan 29, 2009
    166
    MD
    I sent in an AP after 10/1 and it came back Not Disapproved in 3 days. Unbelieveable. Hard to explain to all the other folks still waiting for months..
     

    501st

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 16, 2011
    1,629
    11/15 figures

    Initial reviews 8/1/13
    Secondary reviews 7/26/13

    118,995 Applications received.

    47,210 current backlog

    71,300 applications processed.
     

    Blacksmith101

    Grumpy Old Man
    Jun 22, 2012
    22,351
    Updated Application Numbers 11 15 2013
    ________________________________________
    TOTAL APPLICATIONS
    On 9/13 it was 94,127 Total Applications
    On 9/20 it was 102,001 Total Apps, increase in total of 7,874 in seven days or 1,125 apps per day
    On 9/24 it was 106,972 Total Apps, increase in total of 4,971 in 4 days or 1,243 apps per day
    On 10/02 it was 117,009 Total Apps, increase in total of 10,037 in 8 days or 1,255 apps per day
    On 10/04 it was 117,690 Total Apps, increase in total of 681 in 2 days or 341 apps per day
    On 10/11 it was 116,988 Total Apps, a decrease in the total by -702 in 7 days or -100 apps per day??
    On 10/18 it was 117,353 Total Apps, an increase in the total by 365 in 7 days or 57 apps per day.
    On 10/25 it was 117,943 Total Apps, an increase in the total by 590 in 7 days or 84 apps per day
    On 11/01 it was 118,367 Total Apps, an increase in the total by 424 in 7 days or 61 apps per day
    On 11/08 it was 118,684 Total Apps, an increase in the total by 317 in 7 days or 45 apps per day
    On 11/15 it was 118,995 Total Apps, an increase in the total by 311 in 7 days or 44 apps per day

    PROCESSED APPLICATIONS
    On 9/13 the total processed was 50,653
    On 9/20 the total processed was 52,256
    In seven days they processed 1,603 applications at a rate of 229 per day (got a lot faster after exposing all our private information NOT)
    On 9/24 the total processed was 53,984
    In four days they processed 1,728 applications at a rate of 432 per day (big improvement after they read this thread and someone did the math for them)
    On 10/02 the total processed was 54,573
    In eight days they processed 589 applications at a rate of 74 per day (Oops they are working 21 hours per day so the entire Licensing Division was able to process only three and one half background checks per hour)
    On 10/04 the total processed was 54,930
    In two days they processed 357 applications at a rate of 179 per day.
    On 10/11 the total processed was 58,445.
    In seven days they processed 3,515 applications at a rate of 502 per day.
    On 10/18 the total processed was 60,504.
    In seven days they processed 2,049 applications at a rate of 293 per day.
    On 10/25 the total processed was 63,567.
    In seven days they processed 3,063 applications at a rate of 438 per day.
    On 11/01 the total processed was 66,049.
    In seven days they processed 2,482 applications at a rate of 355 per day.
    On 11/08 the total processed was 67,109.
    In seven days they processed 1,060 applications at a rate of 151 per day.
    On 11/15 the total processed was 71,300.
    In seven days they processed 4,191 applications at a rate of 548 per day.

    BACKLOG AMOUNT
    On 9/13 the backlog was 43,474
    On 9/20 the backlog was 49,754
    In seven days the backlog grew by 6,280 applications or 897 more per day.
    On 9/24 the backlog was 52,988
    In four days the backlog grew by 3,234 applications or 809 more per day.
    On 10/02 the backlog was 62,436
    In eight days the backlog grew by 9,448 applications or 1,181 more per day.
    On 10/04 the backlog was 62,760
    In two days the backlog grew by 324 applications or 162 more per day.
    On 10/11 the backlog was 58,543.
    In Seven days the backlog shrank by 4,217 applications or 602 less per day. It would appear the reduction in total number of applications all came from the backlog.
    On 10/18 the backlog was 56,549.
    In Seven days the backlog shrank by 1,994 applications or 285 less per day.
    On 10/25 the backlog was 54,031.
    In Seven days the backlog shrank by 2,518 applications or 360 less per day.
    On 11/01 the backlog was 51,871.
    In Seven days the backlog shrank by 2,152 applications or 307 less per day.
    On 11/08 the backlog was 51,048.
    In Seven days the backlog shrank by 823 applications or 118 less per day.
    On 11/15 the backlog was 47,210.
    In Seven days the backlog shrank by 4,191 applications or 599 less per day.

    BACKLOG PROJECTION
    If no more applications were received after 9/20 it would take 217 days to process the existing backlog at the rate they were working last week.
    If no more applications were received after 9/24 it would take 123 days to process the existing backlog at the rate they were working last week.
    If no more applications were received after 10/2 it would take 834 days to process the existing backlog at the rate they were working last week. (That is more than a two year backlog!)
    If no more applications were received after 10/04 it would take 351 days to process the existing backlog at the rate they were working.
    If no more applications were received after 10/11 it would take 117 days to process the existing backlog at the rate they were working and assuming no more applications mysteriously disappear.
    If no more applications were received after 10/18 it would take 198 days to process the existing backlog at the rate they were working
    If no more applications were received after 10/25 it would take 123 days to process the existing backlog at the rate they were working
    If no more applications were received after 11/01 it would take 146 days to process the existing backlog at the rate they were working
    If no more applications were received after 11/15 it would take 79 days to process the existing backlog at the rate they were working

    EDITORIAL COMMENTS
    9/13 comments
    After processing 50,000 applications thru 16 databases they found about 30 or 45 guns that had slipped through and they had to get. One wonders how many of those were caught when they were checking the NICS database?
    9/20 comments
    So much for “all hands on deck”.
    Interesting each day they work they get 4 days further behind. Each day they receive 5 days worth of work (1,125) and get 1 days work done (229).
    10/2 comments
    Wow in a little over a week the backlog has jumped from 4 months to over 2 YEARS.
    10/04 comments
    It looks like the MSP is focusing their background check resources on the new HQL permits heck with people waiting for firearms already purchased.
    10/11 comments
    Aside from the question of how does the total number of applications submitted go down, the take away from this week is the very volatile nature of the number of applications processed per day it has been as low as 74 and as high as 502. The MSP press release in September stated they have been working 21/7 since December of last year, if we just consider the 284 days from 01/01/2013 through 10/11/2013 the MSP would have only had to process 412 applications per day to completely process the total of 116,988 applications.
    10/18 comments
    The total number of applications as well as the processing rate keep jumping around which raises as many questions as it settles.
    10/25 Comments
    Sorry I missed posting this I got busy with other things.
    11/01 Comments
    They seem to be showing some improvement however it will still take almost 21 weeks to clear the backlog at the most recent rate
    11/08 Comments
    Looks like they are slipping again! The backlog at the current rate is back up to almost a year and that is if there are no new applications. During the 338 days it will take to clear the existing backlog if the applications continue to arrive at the current rate of 45 per day that would result in an additional 15,210 applications received or an additional 101 days work. I suspect that the rate of new applications will increase as more people get their HQL’s and additional people wake up to the fact that they better get regulated firearms while they still can.
    11/15 Comments
    These numbers jump around so much it is hard to understand what is happening within the Licensing Division.
    Are the numbers correctly reported? Does the workforce vary that much? Do they read this thread and respond?

    Keep them busy keep buying, apply for Designated Collector, apply for HQL, snail mail your questions, etc.
     

    ihriec

    Active Member
    Aug 10, 2013
    494
    Whatever the case with MSP, appreciate the weekly analysis! My wife is waiting on her first from 8/23.
     

    almiller1963

    Active Member
    Oct 18, 2013
    138
    Forest Hill, Md
    I just asked via email about my Maryland Designated Collector request I mailed in on 10/21 and was told in todays response that they are currently processing applications received on 10/8.
     

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