tarundlejr
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Pardon me if this has been covered before...What happens if October 1st passes and I still haven't been "ND" approved? Are those that had their paperwork in before October 1 "grandfathered" in?
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Publius
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Handguns and banned rifles are grandfathered in. On the banned rifles SB281 explicitly says the banned rifles purchased before Oct 1st can be transfered after Oct 1st. I guess the only debate in the banned rifle realm is whether or not you can buy a banned rifle out-of-state before Oct 1st and have it transferred to Maryland FFL after Oct 1st. That situation probably will affect a small set of people. On the handgun realm, the big question is whether a handgun purchased before Oct 1st will require from the buyer a handgun qualification licence for a transfer after Oct 1st. The law isn't explicit on that point. People say we will only really know when the regulations implementing SB281 come out.
Depends. The law specifies that previously-available (but soon to be banned) long guns that are ordered before October 1 are allowed to be delivered. There is no such grandfather clause in the law for handgun purchases that are in progress on October 1. So, it's not clear whether those whose handgun transactions that cross October 1 will be required to apply for a Handgun Qualification License. If it's decided exclusively by the law, my personal understanding (and I'm not a lawyer) is that an HQL application will have to be processed. If it's decided by MSP processes and regulations, it's possible that the HQL process may be avoided.
In this situation, it might be that the lawsuit results will actually hurt those of us who are dealing with the late-release FFL dealers: the MSP can honestly say that the MSP didn't cause the transactions to cross that October 1 boundary---the dealers "chose" not to transfer the merchandise, and the pre-October 1 law (and lawsuit) gave the dealers the opportunity to "choose."
If I read 281 correctly, the only way a MD FFL can transfer a banned weapon after Oct 1 is to have it in his possession before Oct. 1. Guess MSP will decide if it comes up.
bilbravo
Active Member
94 days and counting
chris1205
Member
102 for me and would like the nightmare to be over, and my ffl says there doing 8 day releases! I must be on the wrong list or something. 
jkerm3
Member
102 for me and would like the nightmare to be over, and my ffl says there doing 8 day releases! I must be on the wrong list or something.
I would seriously ask your FFL where you stand at this point. If they are doing 8 day releases and even if they claim are working through their backlog, you should be at the very top of the list at this point no matter what.
I received this at 9:16am this morning:
"In reference to your inquiry your application was processed on 7/26/2013 and placed on Secondary Review. We are currently processing applications for Secondary Review dated 4/12/2013. Thank You."
Application was submitted on 4/16. So from then to 7/26 = 101 days.
Second review, 7/26 to now, day 4. Wonder how long it will take to get out of review? Hopefully, next week! What a bunch of crap!!!!!!
I received this at 9:16am this morning:
"In reference to your inquiry your application was processed on 7/26/2013 and placed on Secondary Review. We are currently processing applications for Secondary Review dated 4/12/2013. Thank You."
Application was submitted on 4/16. So from then to 7/26 = 101 days.
Second review, 7/26 to now, day 4. Wonder how long it will take to get out of review? Hopefully, next week! What a bunch of crap!!!!!!
Looks like it is taking them 2 days to do each day on the secondary review list. Maybe they will get to mine (April 13) tomorrow. Can't imagine my FFL will get the fax before next week. Just so I can pick it up before I go out of the country for 2 weeks the end of August.
shoreshot
Member
Got my ND call from the FFL today to pick up my lower. Was submitted 4-9.
SteveG75
Active Member
Got an email Monday that my 4/16 app was ND on 7/25 and it will just take a "few days" to fax to the dealer.
No word from the dealer as of today (7/31).
PeePeeMcGee
Active Member
Today, they are still working on 04/18/2013.
phatplat
Member
- Jun 30, 2013
- 60
Probably the 15th.
BlackInjun
Member
- Jun 7, 2013
- 70
NOT DISAPPROVED THIS MORNING 106 DAYS they said give a couple of days to fax to MSAR
rtmhunter
Ammo Hoarder
NOT DISAPPROVED THIS MORNING 106 DAYS they said give a couple of days to fax to MSAR
Good for you. Must feel like hitting the number. I hit day 101 today and still nothing. I have to be getting close I would think. What a Cluter%uck this whole mess is.
Bmoredunks
Member
Right behind ya with a purchase of April29th.
April29th.
phatplat
Member
- Jun 30, 2013
- 60
I think ill get to 109
BlackInjun
Member
- Jun 7, 2013
- 70
sure does and sorry was excited
bought 04/17/13
msar faxed 04/19/13
ND in the AM 08/01/13
You know what's funny I called in early may and the trooper I talked with said 04/17 you will probably be in August. I thought he was being pessimistic and knew I would get it late June early July.
bought 04/17/13
msar faxed 04/19/13
ND in the AM 08/01/13
You know what's funny I called in early may and the trooper I talked with said 04/17 you will probably be in August. I thought he was being pessimistic and knew I would get it late June early July.
