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  • DaemonAssassin

    Why should we Free BSD?
    Jun 14, 2012
    24,000
    Political refugee in WV
    No, I stand by my words.

    No employer, government agency or private entity, is RESPONSIBLE for the security of employees, contractors or visitors. The courthouse and City/County operated structures may have armed deputies, contract guards, and other protective measures in place- but they DO NOT imply 'responsibility' for safety or security.

    Not even Federal agencies can guarantee 'protection' of the principals, employees, or visitors of the Executive Branch, Congress, or the Judiciary.

    No building (or employer) is protected as well as the main operations in Washington, DC- but THEY aren't "secure."

    (See the multiple murders in the various Federal buildings in the past for examples. The death of Off Chestnut, bombing of the Senate, assassinations of numerous Presidents, attacks on Federal Judges, Witnesses and Victims, etc.)

    July 24, 1998, started as a rather normal day in Washington, D.C., and Officer Jacob Chestnut of the U.S. Capitol Police was posted at the Capitol’s visitor entrance. While writing directions for a pair of tourists, an armed suspect entered the building and stormed past Officer Chestnut’s checkpoint, shooting him at point-blank range. As the gunman rampaged through the Capitol, he engaged in gunfire with the Capitol Police, injuring one tourist as they sought cover. An additional Capitol Police officer, Detective John M. Gibson, was fatally wounded by the gunman.
    This abrupt end to Officer Chestnut’s life pales in comparison to his service, not only in law enforcement, but also as a veteran. Before coming to Washington, D.C., Jacob Chestnut served 20 years in the United States Air Force as part of the Air Force Security Police and retired as a master sergeant. He saw action on the frontlines during two tours of duty as a Military Policeman during the Vietnam War.

    A man armed with a machete once broke into Stephen Breyer’s vacation home in the Caribbean and took $1,000. Ruth Bader Ginsburg had her purse snatched on a Washington street. David Souter was assaulted by several men while he was jogging. Supreme Court justices have not been immune to violent crime. But this past week’s late-night incident at Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s suburban Washington home, where authorities said a man armed with a gun and knife threatened to kill the justice, reflects a heightened level of potential danger not just for members of the nation’s highest court, but all judges.

    But the situation had much in common with other recent incidents that ended with the shooting death of a former judge in Wisconsin last week and the killing in 2020 of the son of a federal judge at their home in New Jersey. Troubled men, harboring a warped desire for vengeance and equipped with guns, turned their threats into action.

    • May 12, 2005 – A student pilot flying a small Cessna 150 violated airspace restrictions, prompting mass evacuations throughout the White House and US Capitol. Afterwards, two F-16 fighter jets and a Black Hawk helicopter made the plane land at a small airport nearby.
    • August 25, 2009 – A student pilot accidentally violated restricted airspace and was escorted to a nearby airport by a helicopter.
    • November 26, 2019 – The White House was placed on lockdown for 30 minutes after a small aircraft intruded on restricted airspace. Fighter jets were scrambled, before it was determined that the aircraft was not hostile.
    • October 22, 2014 – Dominic Adesanya, formerly of Bel Air, Maryland, jumped the fence onto the north lawn and was quickly taken down by two security dogs while punching and kicking them before being arrested by the Secret Service. He was later ordered by a judge to a mental health facility. Adesanya, who had twice jumped the White House fence in July 2014, pleaded guilty in April 2015 to entering or remaining in a restricted building or grounds and was sentenced in July 2015 to time served and one year of supervised release. Adesanya's lawyer said that he suffered from schizophrenia.
    • November 26, 2015 – Joseph Anthony Caputo, 22, of Stamford, Connecticut, was arrested by Secret Service agents almost immediately after jumping over a White House fence as the first family was inside celebrating Thanksgiving. Caputo had left a suicide note and will and apparently had intended to die.[52] In a plea agreement with prosecutors, Caputo pleaded guilty to one federal misdemeanor count of illegal entry of restricted grounds and was sentenced to three years' probation with various conditions.
    • March 10, 2017 – A man carrying a backpack, later identified as Jonathan Tuan Tran, 26, of Milpitas, California, was arrested after jumping the White House fence, coming within steps of the mansion. Court papers charged Tran with "entering or remaining in restricted grounds while using or carrying a dangerous weapon" and stated that he had two cans of mace in his possession at the time of the incident.
    • October 17, 2017 – Curtis Combs, 36, of Somerset, Kentucky, jumped a concrete barrier on the outer perimeter of the south grounds of the White House complex and was quickly arrested.
    • November 19, 2017 – Victor Merswin, 24, of Stafford, Virginia, jumped the bike rack and was in the process of climbing over the first security fence when he was captured and arrested by Secret Service Officers.
    • July 2017 – The U.S. Secret Service arrested Travis Reinking in 2017 for being in a "restricted area" near the White House. Secret Service reported, "[Reinking] wanted to set up a meeting with the president." On April 22, 2018 Reinking was identified as the primary subject in the Nashville Waffle House shooting. Due to the 2017 White House arrest, Illinois police seized four weapons belonging to Reinking, including the AR-15 rifle used at the Nashville shooting. It is believed that the weapons were later retrieved by Reinking's father, and returned to his son sometime prior to April 22, 2018. Reinking was at large for over 24 hours before he was found and arrested on April 23, 2018, for the shooting at the Waffle House the previous day which killed four.
    • August 10, 2020 – Myron Berryman, a 51-year-old man from Maryland, was shot by a Secret Service officer near 17th Street and Pennsylvania Avenue, a few blocks away from the White House after telling the officer he was armed and ran towards the officer with his hand in his pocket. The suspect who was unarmed was arrested and taken to a hospital where he was charged with assault. The President was holding a press briefing on the COVID-19 pandemic and was temporarily escorted from the briefing room by the Secret Service.
    • May 22, 2023 – Sai Varshith Kandula, 19-year-old man from Chesterfield, Missouri allegedly drove a U-Haul truck into a security fence. According to investigators, the man said he wanted to kill the president and praised Adolf Hitler after his arrest. A Nazi flag was recovered from the van
    • ---
    • The 1983 U.S. Senate bombing was a bomb explosion at the United States Senate on November 7, 1983, as a protest against United States military involvement in Lebanon and Grenada. The attack led to heightened security in the DC metropolitan area, and the inaccessibility of certain parts of the Senate Building. Six members of the radical far-left Armed Resistance Unit (also known as Resistance Conspiracy) were arrested in May 1988 and charged with the bombing, as well as related bombings of Fort McNair and the Washington Navy Yard which occurred on April 25, 1983, and April 20, 1984, respectively.
    The Washington Navy Yard shooting occurred on September 16, 2013, when 34-year-old Aaron Alexis fatally shot 12 people and injured three others in a mass shooting at the headquarters of the Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) inside the Washington Navy Yard in southeast Washington, D.C. The attack took place in the Navy Yard's Building 197; it began around 8:16 a.m. EDT and ended when police killed Alexis around 9:25 a.m. It is the deadliest mass shooting in Washington, D.C. history, as well as the second deadliest mass murder on a U.S. military base, behind the 2009 Fort Hood shooting.

    On November 5, 2009, a terrorist mass shooting took place at Fort Hood (now Fort Cavazos), near Killeen, Texas.Nidal Hasan, a U.S. Army major and psychiatrist, fatally shot 13 people and injured more than 30 others. It was the deadliest mass shooting on an American military base and the deadliest terrorist attack in the United States since the September 11 attacks until it was surpassed by the San Bernardino attack in 2015.
    TL;DR and don't care.

    You also started with a strawman about the sheriff and DOC not protecting inmates. Inmates are not employees.

    Realistically, you keep hopping around to try to prove a point and justify your statement that was never asked for, nor needed.

    Furthermore, when a employer pays out a settlement, they are doing so because they don't want to admit fault for their failure in ensuring employee safety. But part of the settlement is that the employer is not liable for the incident. That's a pesky legal workaround to keep them from being held accountable for employee safety.

    Keep trying, or not. I don't really care either way.
     

    fredthe

    Active Member
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 18, 2023
    198
    Bowie, MD
    There can be only one

    Also I don't see any signs banning swords. And those are being openly carried, so worries about a concealed deadly weapon charge. If you've got your handgun permit, the good news is you CAN carry that puppy concealed without concern. No more lying to the coppers "no officer, that isn't a hand and a half sword in my pants, I am just happy to see you".
    As recently as 30 years ago (and may still be the case) a Maryland landowner was required to carry his sword when not on his property, according to my attorney at the time. The joys of MD laws originating from English Common Law.
     

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