Not my best day at the AGC today...

[Darkemp]

One thing I wish AGC would do is number the 100 yard target holders. I always think I'm in the correct set, but when I get back to my bench I'm off one direction or the other.

I've brought that up to the R.O.'s before, apparently part of the problem are the mudslides that cover it all up. Maybe if they just labeled it every 5 numbers or so then a shooter would have an easier time.

 

[Norton]

And I didn't even make that connection when I e-mailed them... derp derp d'oh

No biggie. If that's the worst thing we deal with today, it will be a good day.

 

[ToBeFree]

Good Job

You did well by my standards! Ignoring them is good but you can only take so much. Them getting off on the other set must have given them a taste for blood and you were next. The rude comments will happen anywhere from time to time. Killing them with kindness will work most every time.

 

[GNLaFrance]

Okay, I got a reply from Del Cockey at AGC. He says they appreciate the heads-up and the matter will be looked in to. They have a new RSO who possibly needs more training, and they're looking for another part-time RSO.

I thanked him for the quick reply and said I knew the directors would want to know about this. I told him my position is that once the RSO is trained and certified, his attitude should be that the rules apply to everyone, no exceptions, and he always has the last word.

Now I wish I'd added, the RSO should insist on polite behavior and step on rudeness, but I guess that can go without saying.

I think this is going to have a positive effect.

PS Guys, if you want things to change, you have to put a bee in your club director's bonnets. Like in the service, grumbling to each other in the chow line felt good but didn't get anything changed - you had to go bend your NCO's ear to see any improvement, right?

 

[Darkemp]

Okay, I got a reply from Del Cockey at AGC. He says they appreciate the heads-up and the matter will be looked in to. They have a new RSO who possibly needs more training, and they're looking for another part-time RSO.

I thanked him for the quick reply and said I knew the directors would want to know about this. I told him my position is that once the RSO is trained and certified, his attitude should be that the rules apply to everyone, no exceptions, and he always has the last word.

Now I wish I'd added, the RSO should insist on polite behavior and step on rudeness, but I guess that can go without saying.

I think this is going to have a positive effect.


PS Guys, if you want things to change, you have to put a bee in your club director's bonnets. Like in the service, grumbling to each other in the chow line felt good but didn't get anything changed - you had to go bend your NCO's ear to see any improvement, right?

I got a PM from the board tonight, I'll call them tomorrow.

 

[Screwtop.243]

Overall the AGC is full of good people and is a nice place to spend time, these asshats won't change that for me, it's my range just as much as it is theirs.

Well put. I have been a member at this range on and off since 1996 and for the most part, my experience there have been good. It seems to me that gun folks come in two varieties; 1) Gentlemanly/lady-like folk who show mutual respect and engage in pleasant conversation with you about shooting, hunting or related topicality OR if I may borrow your terminology.......2) ASSHATS that make unsolicited "know-it-all" comments about the type of scope you chose to put on your gun, your shooting technique, etc., or whatever else they think they are an authority on.

Thankfully, most of my experiences have been with the former at AGC.

 

[mcbruzdzinski]

I have been a member of AGC for quite awhile and have had experiences with all types there. I have had members take my target stands (clearly marked and the positions marked for use by a class), move them to other positions, use them and leave. One time I caught folks in the middle of moving my targets. When I questioned them about it, I was told any target left out was for public use by members!

I could go on, but the bottome line is that shooters come in all varieties no matter waht the range. Just as safety is every shooters concern so is range etiiquette. Some are better at it than others!

 

[linthicum]

Easy fix, when you are at the 100yrd target stand location look back at the benches. There are two pole in line that hold the roof up. Look at the poles and when they line up. You will be standing in the middle of two frame holders. If your bench/firing line location is on the right then your target stand goes on the right, if its on the left then your stand goes on the left.
You could have use this method the day you had you issue with the a-hole. Step behind the firing line, line the poles up and you can clearly see what side your target is on.
I figured this out way back when I first became a member. It was summer time and the lawn crew kept cutting the grass at a slight angle. You would have people setting targets three and four lanes over.

oops forgot to add Marks quote about target stand numbers.

 

[GNLaFrance]

Range. Safety. Officer.

 

[Imperial Pose]

multiple targets setup across multiple stations

One shooting lane per badge

 

[50bmg]

Well done being restrained. I take the high road whenever possible, but if I were shooting with my son and one of the said asshats started getting in my chili, I'd tell him to gtfo of my space.

 

[Indiana Jones]

If I saw you shooting a .50cal I'd be the one drooling and asking very nicely if I could shoot it.

My friend owns it. It's a Barrett M99. I wish I had one! One day I will just for the hell of it.

 

[BigSteve57]

Easy fix, when you are at the 100yrd target stand location look back at the benches. There are two pole in line that hold the roof up. Look at the poles and when they line up. You will be standing in the middle of two frame holders. If your bench/firing line location is on the right then your target stand goes on the right, if its on the left then your stand goes on the left.
You could have use this method the day you had you issue with the a-hole. Step behind the firing line, line the poles up and you can clearly see what side your target is on.
I figured this out way back when I first became a member. It was summer time and the lawn crew kept cutting the grass at a slight angle. You would have people setting targets three and four lanes over.

oops forgot to add Marks quote about target stand numbers.

I'll try this but I've messed up myself after diligently trying to get things lined up. I like the idea of marking every 5th space or so. Heck, it could be done with a simple wooden stake. I think doing something like that would stop a lot of BS.

 

[John from MD]

Gentlemen,

While I am no longer a member of an AGC club, I was a member of Marriottsville Muzzleloaders for over 25 years. I found an easy way to insure my 100 yard frame was in the right holes.

I would set up just to the right of one of the green poles that hold up the roof. I would go back on the pad behind the opposite green pole and sight down the range using the front and rear poles as sights. I would then pick out a depression in the berm or a branch or piece of bush and walk down, focusing on the object.

This worked fine until a buddy would come over to STS while we were walking and I would lose sight of where I was going.

Regards,


John

 

[Redcobra]

The concrete pads where the holes are located used to be numbered corresponding to the shooting positions. You can still see a few, but I guess the markings have worn off over the years. Shouldn't be a big deal to get them renumbered.

Sometimes I'll drop a stick in the 25 yd hole and then sight that back to the shooting position from 100 yds.