Number of W&C permits issued has doubled.

[daggo66]

Those are the words of one of our legislators, not mine. I asked for a source for the numbers and the subject quickly changed. I asked directly why the governor won't change good and substantial. They believe if that happened a new law would be written next session to make things even more restrictive. It was also mentioned that we need 5 more in the house to make it over-ride proof.

Something else was mentioned that I was unaware of. Apparently a governor's veto cannot be overturned in his 4th year of office.

 

[TapRackBang]

Apparently a governor's veto cannot be overturned in his 4th year of office.

Highly unlikely to be true. Like you said, gonna need a source for that...

 

[daggo66]

Highly unlikely to be true. Like you said, gonna need a source for that...

The 4th year part was from a well known member of the House.

 

[TapRackBang]

Doesn't mean it is true. They are politicians, after all, and facts are not part of their profession. Was it told to you in-confidence?

Maybe here?
http://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/43const/html/02art2.html#sec17

17 (d) [...] No such vetoed Bill shall be returned to the Legislature when a new General Assembly of Maryland has been elected and sworn since the passage of the vetoed Bill.

The way I read that, it's the legislature's term, not the governor's.

Got that link from here:
http://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/07leg/html/proc.html#vetoed

So I sourced it for you.

Doesn't matter anyway since they can just pass the same text again as a new bill.

 

[Stoveman]

The 4th year part was from a well known member of the House.

Which side of the aisle?

 

[montoya32]

Late session vetos have to wait until the next session, too. That may be what the delegate was referring to. Either way, they can always call a special session. Nothing in MD is fool proof. Emphasis on the "fool".

 

[daggo66]

Which side of the aisle?

The right side.

 

[daggo66]

Late session vetos have to wait until the next session, too. That may be what the delegate was referring to. Either way, they can always call a special session. Nothing in MD is fool proof. Emphasis on the "fool".

No, he clearly mentioned 4th year of a term could not be over turned. He claimed it was in the MD Constitution.

 

[montoya32]

No, he clearly mentioned 4th year of a term could not be over turned. He claimed it was in the MD Constitution.

Who was it and where is it in print?

 

[daggo66]

Found it.

The General Assembly may not override a veto during the first year of a new legislative term since the bill would have been passed by the previous legislature (Const., Art. II, sec. 17)


http://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/07leg/html/proc.html

 

[POP57]

Maybe he meant the number of W&C among legislators has doubled.

 

[montoya32]

Found it.

The General Assembly may not override a veto during the first year of a new legislative term since the bill would have been passed by the previous legislature (Const., Art. II, sec. 17)


http://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/07leg/html/proc.html

That means he has to veto it late into a session to avoid the legislature having time to veto. I believe they can still call a special session.

 

[Straightshooter]

Found it.

The General Assembly may not override a veto during the first year of a new legislative term since the bill would have been passed by the previous legislature (Const., Art. II, sec. 17)


http://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/07leg/html/proc.html

That's based on the terms of the legislators, not the Governor.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

 

[montoya32]

Also, keep in mind that Hogan wants to be re-elected. So wait another 6 years if he wins again.

 

[daggo66]

That's based on the terms of the legislators, not the Governor.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

Same cycle.

 

[TapRackBang]

So your source was wrong. Has nothing to do with the governor's term. It's the Legislature's term. Generally same cycle, but still not the governor's term.

Also if they submit a bill to him prior to 6 days before the end of the session, he has to veto it before the end of the session, in which case they can still override during the session even if it's his fourth year. Your source was just plain wrong. And they are one of the legislators who run the state. Why am I not surprised?

 

[daggo66]

Also, keep in mind that Hogan wants to be re-elected. So wait another 6 years if he wins again.

Irrelevant.

 

[daggo66]

So your source was wrong. Has nothing to do with the Governor's term. It's the Legislature's term.

Also if they submit a bill to him prior to 6 days before the end of the session, he has to veto it before the end of the session, in which case they can still override during the session even if it's his fourth year. Your source was just plain wrong. And they are on of the legislators who run the state. Why am I not surprised?

One and the same. they are on the same cycle.

 

[montoya32]

Irrelevant.

Think so? What makes you think the governor will want to touch 2A issues just because the legislature is up for re-election? He is focused on re-election himself.

 

[Straightshooter]

One and the same. they are on the same cycle.

Not if the Governor dies, resigns, or goes to prison.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk