Police for Pitman

[platoonDaddy]

Saw on sign on 424, Police for Pitman. Didn’t state what police organization, unbelievable.

 

[joppaj]

Saw on sign on 424, Police for Pitman. Didn’t state what police organization, unbelievable.

State FOP endorsed Moore. Don't be shocked what a union will do (if this is a union.)

 

[jrumann59]

State FOP endorsed Moore. Don't be shocked what a union will do (if this is a union.)

FOP also endorsed Dutch.

 

[Mr H]

Seeing those in several places. Just read it as "Police UNIONS for Pittman"

 

[Bertfish]

State FOP endorsed Moore. Don't be shocked what a union will do (if this is a union.)

Unbelievable

 

[Tungsten]

I understand school unions endorsing commie trash, but I will never understand how any police union endorses anyone from that party.

 

[welder516]

Never can understand the stupidity of some.

A union glass installer my brother knows voted Dem because the union says so.

Now he can’t work because of travel would cost 400.00 a week. So he took lay off.

 

[smokey]

"sheepdog for wolf 2022"

 

[systemmaster]

I understand school unions endorsing commie trash, but I will never understand how any police union endorses anyone from that party.

Dems are generally pro union which can result in higher pay and benefits. It's not a matter of their stance on issues rather who will do best for the union members.

Endorsements can assist unions later during contract negotiations. You scratch my back, I scratch yours kind of thing. It's not pretty but it's how the system works.

 

[Tungsten]

Dems are generally pro union which can result in higher pay and benefits. It's not a matter of their stance on issues rather who will do best for the union members.

Endorsements can assist unions later during contract negotiations. You scratch my back, I scratch yours kind of thing. It's not pretty but it's how the system works.

There are cops being killed on an almost daily basis due to democrats demonizing the police and defunding them. A couple of bucks isn't worth getting killed over.

 

[platoonDaddy]

There are cops being killed on an almost daily basis due to democrats demonizing the police and defunding them. A couple of bucks isn't worth getting killed over.

AMEN!

 

[fishgutzy]

I understand school unions endorsing commie trash, but I will never understand how any police union endorses anyone from that party.

Simple. Democrats issue violent, unpaid orders that they follow with impunity.
Brutal enforcement of mask and lock down mandates in every Democrat ruled state.
CA was the worst for this.
You can bet that Baltimore screens out any cadet candidate that believes the constitution is the law of the land.

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[fishgutzy]

Dems are generally pro union which can result in higher pay and benefits. It's not a matter of their stance on issues rather who will do best for the union members.

Endorsements can assist unions later during contract negotiations. You scratch my back, I scratch yours kind of thing. It's not pretty but it's how the system works.

Unions kick back a percentage of dues to the politicians that approve the contract. This practice is illegal in private sector unions.
Shockingly, this why socialist dead ex president FDR opposed public unions for this very reason. There is no natural conflict between management and labor in the public sector.
All public unions are corrupt. And there is zero effort to ever stop it.

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[systemmaster]

Unions kick back a percentage of dues to the politicians that approve the contract. This practice is illegal in private sector unions.
Shockingly, this why socialist dead ex president FDR opposed public unions for this very reason. There is no natural conflict between management and labor in the public sector.
All public unions are corrupt. And there is zero effort to ever stop it.

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Can you explain kick backs?

Most modern unions operate PAC funds that allow them to legally contribute to political campaigns.

PAC funds are separate from union dues (federal law) and voluntary.

 

[GTOGUNNER]

Rank and file vote matters. FOP vote sign could drive voters to another party. Moore for more LEO’s won’t fly in some places.


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[Biggfoot44]

Unions kick back a percentage of dues to the politicians

It more than a bit more subtle and indirect than that .

There are the PACs , of which member donations are generally voluntary . But the high profile endorsements are more valuable to the candidates than the actual $ .

Their is significant , but not complete overlap of Union interests and Dem/ progressive platforms . Occasionally if an incumbent sucks , or challenger particularly supports their local issues , they will switch up . But for the most part , they're backing the likely winner , as defacto protection money . It's at least as much the politicians shaking them down , as the Locals trying to suborn the politicians .

 

[rondon600]

Why don’t conservative candidates just make generic signs that say “police/fire/ambulance chasers for conservatives/republicans/Cox etc?” Ive seen the “police/fireman/et all for Pittman” and “vote for the democrats” popping up everywhere. Maybe the conservatives don’t have the endorsement of the union but certainly there are those that are of those professions for the other team.

 

[systemmaster]

Why don’t conservative candidates just make generic signs that say “police/fire/ambulance chasers for conservatives/republicans/Cox etc?” Ive seen the “police/fireman/et all for Pittman” and “vote for the democrats” popping up everywhere. Maybe the conservatives don’t have the endorsement of the union but certainly there are those that are of those professions for the other team.

Because that is a general statement regarding a government entity supporting a candidate. That's a no no.

The campaign has to point to where the endorsement comes from such FOP or IAFF which are unions representing police and fire. Unions can be political, individual police and fire have to remain apolitical when representing themselves as such. They are free to endorse whoever they chose as a private citizen.

 

[rondon600]

Conservative candidates should make signs “this (state your profession) for Cox

 

[joppaj]

Because that is a general statement regarding a government entity supporting a candidate. That's a no no.

I disagree. Ehrlich handed out "Police for Ehrlich" bumper stickers. I had one for my Jeep. It didn't claim any specific endorsement.