jasonk1229
Ultimate Member
A copy of a legal gun should still be legal?
It should all be legal
A copy of a legal gun should still be legal?
Hmm, if SBR versions are legal, that opens a can of worms.
I submit a Form 1 for an SBR version of a banned firearm. I get it approved, and I make it. But I also make a longer than 16" barrel part to swap onto the SBR. But if I do that, I am making a banned firearm, as BATFE states that if you replace the SBR barrel with an over 16" barrel, the firearm is not then an SBR.
Also, I wonder if the L1A1 would be legal now. While it is based on the FAL, the parts are not interchangeable as they are different dimensions. That would be a fun one to submit.
This Fulton Armory very similar to Polytech only quality. Have submitted request to MSP. Pricing seems ridiculous though.
This Fulton Armory very similar to Polytech only quality. Have submitted request to MSP. Pricing seems ridiculous though.
I thought the Fulton Armory one was 100% interchangeable?
polytech/chinese
Looks like the polytech is mostly too. I think they just don't like Springfield armory. Seems pretty UN-American to allow cheap Chinese imports that will put American workers out of their jobs.
Polytechs have been banned from importation since the 90's I believe.
If they weren't you could get them for $400 a piece.
The issue is not what it looks like; it's whether it's parts compatible with the M1A. Unfortunately, my understanding is that the SOCOM 16 does use standard M1A threads. So, unless there's some other difference I'm not aware of, maybe in the gas system, I dunno if you'd get away with it. I am still flat-out stunned that the MSP thought that a threading difference was enough to not make something a copy. Using that logic, the local shops should just start pinning 1/2x20 adapters to their ARs to make 'em legal.While they are feeling generous, we should submit the SOCOM 16 from Springfield. extended rail version this looks nothing like the evil M1A.
polytech/chinese
Looks like the polytech is mostly too. I think they just don't like Springfield armory. Seems pretty UN-American to allow cheap Chinese imports that will put American workers out of their jobs.
While they are feeling generous, we should submit the SOCOM 16 from Springfield. extended rail version this looks nothing like the evil M1A.
The issue is not what it looks like; it's whether it's parts compatible with the M1A. Unfortunately, my understanding is that the SOCOM 16 does use standard M1A threads. So, unless there's some other difference I'm not aware of, maybe in the gas system, I dunno if you'd get away with it. I am still flat-out stunned that the MSP thought that a threading difference was enough to not make something a copy. Using that logic, the local shops should just start pinning 1/2x20 adapters to their ARs to make 'em legal.
Yes, but they never applied the rules quite like that before - or are you forgetting that Polytechs were considered regulated since the law came into effect?The non-interchangeable part has to be 1) internal and 2) necessary for the full function of the firearm. Don't be stunned - the request was made referencing their rules and verifiable facts.
You get what you pay for. Fulton does a full-house match-quality rifle.This Fulton Armory very similar to Polytech only quality. Have submitted request to MSP. Pricing seems ridiculous though.
No ****ing way they keep the Polytech on there. We all know the truth - that this is an M1A copy.
Nice to know piston ARs are ready to go, though.
Seeing as how the M1A or USGI M14 bolt will not work in a Polytech / Norinco M14s without machining of the receiver, I an see how that would be considered not a copy.
The L1A1 on the other hand probably will not fly. All major components are interchangeable from the FAL to and from the L1A1. Bolts, barrels, and complete trigger housings all swap. And pretty much every receiver in the US is actually metric, or a modified metric, regardless of what parts are on it. As much as I would love to see any FAL or L1A1 variant legal for sale again in MD, I think it is way more of a stretch than the Polytech / M1A "ruling".