PSA - Don't get angry when the Loctite won't budge.

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  • pilot25

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    Jul 13, 2016
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    Not a mark on the frame.

    School of the American Dremel...
    Classes will be on Wednesday. You supply the Dremel the firearm. Fear and tears are extra.
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    Ranchero50

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    Dec 15, 2012
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    The results may not justify the means but the job is done without damaging the good parts so good job. We tell the apprentices, don't make it worse with regards to "fixing" something.
     

    pilot25

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    Jul 13, 2016
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    The results may not justify the means but the job is done without damaging the good parts so good job. We tell the apprentices, don't make it worse with regards to "fixing" something.

    That is good advise. After busting out the Dremel, I just had to laugh about it. There are worse problems in life.

    Its a combination of impatience, determination, and unwillingness to seek help beyond Googling something. Also, It was satisflying to destroy that mount. I really hated that thing.

    What I don't get is I really heated the thing up, with a soldering iron, to loosen the Loctite. I did hit it with a tap too so it should have broken free. Makes me wonder what is going to happen when I try and loosen the other parts.
     

    Art3

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    Jan 30, 2015
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    That is good advise. After busting out the Dremel, I just had to laugh about it. There are worse problems in life.

    Its a combination of impatience, determination, and unwillingness to seek help beyond Googling something. Also, It was satisflying to destroy that mount. I really hated that thing.

    What I don't get is I really heated the thing up, with a soldering iron, to loosen the Loctite. I did hit it with a tap too so it should have broken free. Makes me wonder what is going to happen when I try and loosen the other parts.

    It was aluminum, right? Aluminum can be really weird. In addition to galvanic corrosion (which is highly unlikely on a well maintained firearm), it can gall and hold onto fasteners with uncanny strength.

    Your applied effort to destruction ratio seems a little off. I think you need a plasma cutter ;)
     

    Magnumite

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    Dec 17, 2007
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    Harford County, Maryland
    I wouldn’t fret over your application of the blue loctite. GM uses it on some of the bolts holding the case halves of transmissions together. I have encountered those bolts being a real b—-h to remove. Thank goidness used a grade 8 equivilent, 12 point bolt and I had a good Snap On 12 point socket. And a long breaker bar.
     
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    pilot25

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    Jul 13, 2016
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    Rule #1 don’t use loctite on scope mounts or rings. Ever.


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    So should I have just gotten a different mount? Without loctite it would loosen after maybe 20-30 rounds. I thought blue loctite was the go to solution
     

    rbird7282

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    So should I have just gotten a different mount? Without loctite it would loosen after maybe 20-30 rounds. I thought blue loctite was the go to solution



    IIRC when I took a class with Ed Shell, he said as long as screws are properly torqued to manufacturer specs he’s never had one come loose.


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    pilot25

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    IIRC when I took a class with Ed Shell, he said as long as screws are properly torqued to manufacturer specs he’s never had one come loose.


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    Well, I think this would have been his first.
     

    pilot25

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    I don't know who Ed Shell is and I don't mean to sound like I'm dismissing this person but I used a Wheeler torque wrench to get 12 lbs of torque. What else do you do?
     

    willtill

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    May 15, 2007
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    I don't know who Ed Shell is and I don't mean to sound like I'm dismissing this person but I used a Wheeler torque wrench to get 12 lbs of torque. What else do you do?

    Probably not the best QC controlled product that you had the unfortunate experience with. Crappy tapped screw holes and screws themselves.

    I have the same issue with the external choke cylinder on my TriStar ATAC. After a few rounds of buckshot; the choke would start unscrewing. It's absolutely Maddening. I think I fixed it's goose good though with a liberal amount of blue Loctite. We shall see :innocent0


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    Magnumite

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    Dec 17, 2007
    6,601
    Harford County, Maryland
    IIRC when I took a class with Ed Shell, he said as long as screws are properly torqued to manufacturer specs he’s never had one come loose.


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    Referencing this for the OP. This is valid for properly sized threads both on the screw and in the companion screw hole. If anything was not properly sized the screws will work loose. In your case this seems probable.0
     

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