SAF SUES IN MARYLAND OVER HANDGUN PERMIT DENIAL UPDATED 3-5-12

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    MDFF2008

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    Aug 12, 2008
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    I don't see how Smiegel's bill would undercut any of the cases in the Federal courts - after all, wasn't Masciandaro addressing a question already rectified by legislation?

    Or would the difference be that since Woollard wasn't thrown in jail, he was just denied an administrative process (or at least that's their argument), he doesn't have legs to stand on once he does get a permit; whereas somebody who served jailtime is still owed something to make things right?

    Sort of.

    Wollard is sueing for his permit. His permit thus becomes the relief he seeks from the court. He's not sueing for money or anything.

    If this bill were to pass; the MSP could approve his permit, thus he gets the relief he seeks.

    But since the bill is subjective about how the MSP may deny permits, they could approve his permit, then go back to denying.

    So we would then have to go back to the beginning and resue.
     

    Bohlieve410

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 21, 2011
    1,575
    The illegal immigrant in-state tuition referendum got an unbelievable amount of signatures for our own "progressive utopia" of a state, why not this? And a bunch of registered Dems signed it to. Ya never know....
     

    e40bib

    Member
    Feb 13, 2011
    68
    Excuse the ignorance...tried a search but didn't find anything on it here but... Has a "popular referendum" ever been considered to repeal the "good and substantial" requirement. If we garnered enough signatures and it were to go to a ballot, what are the chances it would pass given MD's demographic makeup? Just thought of this given the CASA de Maryland crap.

    Then we should have a "referendum" on the rest of the Bill of Rights?
     

    smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    31,574
    With a court system like this and politicians blatantly violating and massaging the law, it's almost getting to the point where the average citizen should have the same "respect" for the laws and just carry. What happens if Legg just never releases a decision on this? Do we have anything we can do to speed him up?
     

    SkunkWerX

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 17, 2010
    1,577
    MoCo/HoCo border
    Rumor on the street is Judge Legg is part bear. He is in hibernation.

    If he were part groundhog, we could pull him from his burrow in February to see if his written decision casts a shadow, or whether we will have 6 more weeks of not knowing.

    Worst case is that honerable judge is a decendant of Rip Van Winkle, in which case, we could have a very long wait.
     

    krucam

    Ultimate Member
    "Correct:
    http://www.mdd.uscourts.gov/publicat...s/Opinions.asp "

    Anyone esle having trouble with this link?

    link doesn't work. Error 404.

    Thanks JaredS. I will try it Monday.

    Copy/Pasting the text with the elipsis (...) in it will not work. Right-click and select "copy hyperlink", "copy shortcut" (or whatever) is needed!

    http://www.mdd.uscourts.gov/publications/opinions/Opinions.asp

    Nothing as of 14:52....
     
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