SB1 (2023) - Criminal Law - Wearing, Carrying, or Transporting Firearms - Restrictions (Gun Safety Act of 2023)

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  • dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,128
    I thought Good and Substantial never left it was now allowed to include Self-defense; whereas before it was not.
    You thought wrong, G&S was ruled Unconstitutional (IN ANY FORM to include self defense) by SCOTUS in BUEN.
     

    dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,128
    I'm having trouble finding the article, but Fox had a piece yesterday where the Harford County sheriff spoke up vociferously against this law. I'm not sure if he specifically said that he wouldn't enforce it. It really cheezes me off that I can't find the article now.
    He'll enforce it, he is not a Constitutional Sheriff.
     

    dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,128
    There is that too.

    Then again, the leasee can still control access to the property (generally). So they could still be telling trespassers that guns are not permitted. Not sure how that conflict works out. You wouldn't violate SB1 by being there with a firearm, but you would be violating general trespass laws.
    It is an interesting delima.
     

    MigraineMan

    Defenestration Specialist
    Jun 9, 2011
    19,412
    Frederick County
    Governor Moore signed a hundred or so bills into law yesterday. Notably absent from that list are SB-1 and HB-824. I'm torn between two scenarios with equal probability (3% error margin):
    a) Moore knows both SB-1 and HB-824 are turds, and he doesn't want his name on them when they get kicked by SCOTUS. He will let them both default into law without his signature;
    b) Moore is waiting on the Everytown check to clear, and there will be a media spectacle circus at the signing. Mike Bloomberg and his carpetbagging lawyer, Sam Levy, will be in attendance, flanked by Emo Jen and Angrier Shamblee and a sea of red-shirted Demanding Moms.
     

    jc1240

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 18, 2013
    15,016
    Westminster, MD
    Governor Moore signed a hundred or so bills into law yesterday. Notably absent from that list are SB-1 and HB-824. I'm torn between two scenarios with equal probability (3% error margin):
    a) Moore knows both SB-1 and HB-824 are turds, and he doesn't want his name on them when they get kicked by SCOTUS. He will let them both default into law without his signature;
    b) Moore is waiting on the Everytown check to clear, and there will be a media spectacle circus at the signing. Mike Bloomberg and his carpetbagging lawyer, Sam Levy, will be in attendance, flanked by Emo Jen and Angrier Shamblee and a sea of red-shirted Demanding Moms.

    My money is on option B aka leftist orgy
     

    usa259

    Active Member
    Mar 11, 2015
    821
    You thought wrong, G&S was ruled Unconstitutional (IN ANY FORM to include self defense) by SCOTUS in BUEN.
    Thanks. What is the law of today then? I was putting together Law Chair's letter to include, to cover Bruen decision. ?
     

    6-Pack

    NRA Life Member
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 17, 2013
    5,695
    Carroll Co.
    So as a home owner that in order to carry on my property, I must give myself permission?
    It’ll be interesting if your spouse is on the deed too and doesn’t grant permission, then you don’t have all of the owners’ permission.

    I can’t wait to see how revocable trusts are handled under this, as well as the commercial landlords (since most are LLCs).
     

    Bertfish

    Throw bread on me
    Mar 13, 2013
    17,716
    White Marsh, MD
    Governor Moore signed a hundred or so bills into law yesterday. Notably absent from that list are SB-1 and HB-824. I'm torn between two scenarios with equal probability (3% error margin):
    a) Moore knows both SB-1 and HB-824 are turds, and he doesn't want his name on them when they get kicked by SCOTUS. He will let them both default into law without his signature;
    b) Moore is waiting on the Everytown check to clear, and there will be a media spectacle circus at the signing. Mike Bloomberg and his carpetbagging lawyer, Sam Levy, will be in attendance, flanked by Emo Jen and Angrier Shamblee and a sea of red-shirted Demanding Moms.
    Definitely B
     

    Raineman

    On the 3rd box
    Dec 27, 2008
    3,551
    Eldersburg
    Governor Moore signed a hundred or so bills into law yesterday. Notably absent from that list are SB-1 and HB-824. I'm torn between two scenarios with equal probability (3% error margin):
    a) Moore knows both SB-1 and HB-824 are turds, and he doesn't want his name on them when they get kicked by SCOTUS. He will let them both default into law without his signature;
    b) Moore is waiting on the Everytown check to clear, and there will be a media spectacle circus at the signing. Mike Bloomberg and his carpetbagging lawyer, Sam Levy, will be in attendance, flanked by Emo Jen and Angrier Shamblee and a sea of red-shirted Demanding Moms.

    My money is on option B aka leftist orgy

    Definitely B
    Agreed...B. And don't forget the red headed Nazi sponsor of it. He'll surely be there with a bunch of other jackboot career politicians.

    This Court smackdown is going to be so sweet when it comes.
     

    MigraineMan

    Defenestration Specialist
    Jun 9, 2011
    19,412
    Frederick County
    He's got 30 days til it becomes law without his signature right?
    Affirmative.
    All passed bills, except the budget bill and constitutional amendments, must be presented to the Governor within twenty days following adjournment of a session. The Governor may veto such bills within thirty days after presentation. If a passed bill is not vetoed, it becomes law.
     

    Sunrise

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 18, 2020
    5,460
    Capital Region
    Governor Moore said he'll sign SB 1:


    Like many Republican lawmakers, McCray cited concerns about the constitutionality of the legislation. When asked about the potential legal challenges, Gov. Wes Moore said Attorney General Anthony Brown had confidence in the plan. Moore also said he will sign the legislation.
     

    welder516

    Deplorable Welder
    MDS Supporter
    Jun 8, 2013
    27,564
    Underground Bunker
    Wes Moore is not signing that piece of crap bill, best to ignore it and let it roll in. That way good or bad he can distance himself from it.

    We all know when it goes in effect more people will die and the dying won't somehow stop like the dumb azzes that voted it in.
    Barry O Moore has presidential aspirations and will take over ruining whatever is left of America
     

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