SB1 (2023) - Criminal Law - Wearing, Carrying, or Transporting Firearms - Restrictions (Gun Safety Act of 2023)

[Jake4U]

Democrats: "It's only a crime if you get caught."

It's only a crime if you are a home owning, working, tax paying subject of Maryland. Fixed it for you.

 

[Sundazes]

As if Anyone since 1972 has ever recieved a 3yr sentence.

The real reason behind the 3 year * Potential * Sentence is to make it a Prohibiting Offense . Make a never used / never going to be used Max sentence even longer is pointless .

That is exactly my point. No judge in MD ever give the Amish a max sentence. They need them back out on the streets.

 

[eruby]

Thanks Lazarus. Turns out that the delegate in question, who told me that he would NEVER vote against my gun rights, voted for SB1. These politicians will say anything to get elected and lie to your face.

To quote John Blutarsky, "Who was it?"

 

[winch]

Carl Jackson

 

[LAC_MD]

I thought initially the fee was supposed to be limited to what it cost to do the investigation… but I find it funny they want to line their pockets by increasing the fees to get/maintain a permit while dismantling the ability to use it.

 

[eruby]

Carl Jackson

Thank you

Also, Mark was on WCBM sometime after 8:30 this morning

Just caught the tail end of it

Great job as always @esqappellate

 

[winch]

I can barely understand SB1 the way the current document is presented. I need someone to explain WTF is prohibited in this bill.

 

[possumman]

Thank you

Also, Mark was on WCBM sometime after 8:30 this morning

Just caught the tail end of it

Great job as always @esqappellate

Excellent interview !

 

[winch]

Excellent interview !

Darn, missed it! I was posting on MDS lol.....ok...found it on a podcast!!

 

[scottyfz6]

“The night is dark and full of terrors…”

Eh I have NV and thermal, I aint scared.

 

[scottyfz6]

Darn, missed it! I was posting on MDS lol.....ok...found it on a podcast!!

at 2.35 or so on the link below

The Morning Drive with Casey & Elliott 4-17-23 - WCBM Daily Shows

omny.fm

 

[trickg]

I can barely understand SB1 the way the current document is presented. I need someone to explain WTF is prohibited in this bill.

The gist of the bill, at least with my limited understanding, is that with the way it's written, it's almost impossible to carry a concealed weapon without running afoul of at least one limitation outlined within the bill. The basic gist is that because Maryland was forced under law with the SCOTUS Bruen decision to make Maryland a shall-issue state, they are effectively taking away that right through legislating limitations of that right.

 

[Sundazes]

at 2.35 or so on the link below

The Morning Drive with Casey & Elliott 4-17-23 - WCBM Daily Shows

omny.fm

 

[rbird7282]

Not sure, but I think the Ivan Bates thing passed. The ridiculous law the increases the MAX penalty for illegal possession of a firearm or some crap like that. They needed to address a mandatory min for firearm use in crimes.

They already did with FSA2013, it’s useless when it gets ignored completely.


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[Reezie]

Anyone else notice all the contingencies they made in the bill?

It seems like they covered things more than once just to make it a mess to fight.

Take casinos for example:
1) A casino is expressly banned in the bill.
2) So are facilities with video lottery facility.
3) So are places that dispense alcohol for on-site consumption.
4) You also have to get permission from a private property owner to carry on said property.

Take stadiums:
1) A stadium is expressly banned in the bill.
2) So are places that dispense alcohol for on-site consumption.
3) You also have to get permission from a private property owner to carry on said property.

doesnt matter how many times they cover something its all going to get struck down eventually

 

[letmeoutpax]

They are terrible

In 2013 a senator to me he would never vote yes for the 2013 gun safety act. He didn’t vote yes. He abstained and with his abstention the bill proceeded

When I called him on it he was stunned that I not only knew he abstained allowing the bill to proceed but that how they voted was available for us peasants to see.

Then he explained that he didn’t “lie” to me because he didn’t actually vote yes

POS

44man, who was this senator?

 

[Bertfish]

doesnt matter how many times they cover something its all going to get struck down eventually

You hope. I'd bet we will never be rid of all of SB1. The most egregious bits yes but pieces will survive somehow.

 

[44man]

44man, who was this senator?

Mac middleton

he no longer a senator, retired I guess

 

[CaptChaos]

I thought initially the fee was supposed to be limited to what it cost to do the investigation… but I find it funny they want to line their pockets by increasing the fees to get/maintain a permit while dismantling the ability to use it.

Aside from lining their pockets, I think the motivation behind it was to raise it as much as they thought they could get away with so that it was a barrier [further] to entry. I know people who've told me all the current costs associated with a Maryland wear and carry permit were preventing them from obtaining it as it is. Imagine what's going to happen to costs with a stricter training mandate and higher application fees.

 

[AKbythebay]

I think the senate version got through. In it they reduced the fees by $25 from the house version. The house version doubled it, the Senate version increased it to $75 (from $50) for renewal and $125 (from $75) for the initial. Still sucks. Just a hair less than the $100/$150 of the House version.

Thanks for the clarification. This being Maryland, we should be jumping for joy at ONLY a 50-67% increase in fees. What a bunch of garbage politicians in the MGA.