cms1528
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- Feb 26, 2013
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Law does not excluded police officers who might be off duty, at least not that I saw
According to MGAs site, neither SB-1 nor HB-824 have been signed by the good Guv-nah, yet.The bill passed and was signed into law by the governor. Will take effect 1-Oct-23 unless MSI can file suit and get a PI by then. Biggest restriction is that ALL privately owned property will require permission to enter with a firearm via a sign, oral, or written approval. Folks on this site are rude, sorry you didn't get a better response.
Using the 3rd Amendment to justify SB-1 is absolute manure. They know it. We know it. They know we know it. And still they do it. It makes a mockery of rule of law. They know this and they just don't care.I wrote this to Clippinger before the Bills passage:
Dear Delegate Clippinger,
In a recent House hearing you stated that the 3rd Amendment allows for the prohibition of firearms on private property.
I would like to remind you that the 3rd Amendment was about the quartering of soldiers not the prohibiting of arms on private property by non soldiers.
Quartering is providing housing and food.
The argument that was made doesn't comply with text and tradition of the founding area.
Therefore, I request you vote against the passage of SB1.
I will not go into the other constitutional issues with this bill at this time however if you would like to know more about my views about the unconstitutionality of this bill, please feel free to contact me.
And...thanks for writing that. It's good.I wrote this to Clippinger before the Bills passage:
Dear Delegate Clippinger,
In a recent House hearing you stated that the 3rd Amendment allows for the prohibition of firearms on private property.
I would like to remind you that the 3rd Amendment was about the quartering of soldiers not the prohibiting of arms on private property by non soldiers.
Quartering is providing housing and food.
The argument that was made doesn't comply with text and tradition of the founding area.
Therefore, I request you vote against the passage of SB1.
I will not go into the other constitutional issues with this bill at this time however if you would like to know more about my views about the unconstitutionality of this bill, please feel free to contact me.
Exactly. No consequences for willful disregard for legal judicial rulings from the highest court. It makes a mockery of all laws. Another thread pulled from our law and order fabric.Which is extremely ironic because "owning a business that required one to handle a lot of cash" was on of the "good and substantial" reasons you could use to obtain a permit before the NYSRPA v. Bruen decision. Imagine a world where SCOTUS rights some wrongs and now everyone (including those who were special enough to get permits before) have even LESS rights. What a messed up state this is, blatantly passing laws and getting away with it. At one point during one of the hearings a couple of weeks ago, I heard Clippinger say something like, "That is for the courts to decide." Sure, let's have the state pay for defense of your unconstitutional law you forced through knowing full well it was unconstitutional. No penalty for him, so no big deal, right?
Exempting some classes of people from training and fee requirements also creates yet another 14th Amendment claim against SB-1 and HB-824.Well at least there's that - it sucks for the majority, but it's good to know that I don't have to jump through additional hoops every time I want to renew my W&C.
Then that's good too!Exempting some classes of people from training and fee requirements also creates yet another 14th Amendment claim against SB-1 and HB-824.
Thank you.And...thanks for writing that. It's good.
And that exact question has already been answered multiple times in this thread and/or is available from several other sources it is rude to be too lazy to look for the answer or consider one's time more valuable than someone else's. This thread would not be as long as it is if people would not keep asking questions that have been repeatedly answered. If you wish to spend your time answering these questions go right ahead but spare us the comments about other members rudeness.This thread has 3,489 posts of our thoughts, opinions and its hard to determine facts....it's hard to follow if you're not on here everyday and this dude just asked a question on where this bill is at.
The irony is that it took longer to write that than to just give the person the answer or to ignore it.And that exact question has already been answered multiple times in this thread and/or is available from several other sources it is rude to be too lazy to look for the answer or consider one's time more valuable than someone else's. This thread would not be as long as it is if people would not keep asking questions that have been repeatedly answered. If you wish to spend your time answering these questions go right ahead but spare us the comments about other members rudeness.
You could start your own "Questions Answered" thread where people could go to have you do their research for them and you can run that thread any way you like.
Why the only thing we are exempt from is new training every two years. Heck the fees for the training creds and nra membership costs what some classes do.I bet they will get a influx of people seeking to become instructors
Yes but it's one time and you're exempt in perpetuity. So the ROI is maybe one renewal period.Why the only thing we are exempt from is new training every two years. Heck the fees for the training creds and nra membership costs what some classes do.
Yes but it's one time and you're exempt in perpetuity. So the ROI is maybe one renewal period.
The training exemption has been there for years, it's not new.Exempting some classes of people from training and fee requirements also creates yet another 14th Amendment claim against SB-1 and HB-824.
However, carry outside the home was only recently confirmed by SCOTUS to be protected 2nd Amendment activity.The training exemption has been there for years, it's not new.
Can't even make bank deposits without being in violation, but i wouldn't be shocked if someone actually calls a bank to be given permission to make a bank deposit while carrying
The bill passed and was signed into law by the governor. Will take effect 1-Oct-23 unless MSI can file suit and get a PI by then. Biggest restriction is that ALL privately owned property will require permission to enter with a firearm via a sign, oral, or written approval. Folks on this site are rude, sorry you didn't get a better response.
Oh they did increase?5 year after 10/1