ToneGrail
MSI, NRA, & SAF Member
I don't see anything in there that distinguishes between a private dwelling and private business open to the public concerning affirmative permission to carry.
I don't see anything in there that distinguishes between a private dwelling and private business open to the public concerning affirmative permission to carry.
If you read the law, then the order it will be clear. There is a section in the law that references property, buildings, and dwellings. (On page 80 of the file linked below.)I don't see anything in there that distinguishes between a private dwelling and private business open to the public concerning affirmative permission to carry.
Confucius said it firstI see what you did there... pretty clever!
I'm not faulting or judging you at all, but all I feel is a heavy burden of responsibility.Was it just me or didn't it feel pretty damn good to conceal carry today? Same sensation I had when my w&c permit arrived in the mail
Thanks for the first source information. Where can I find the similar first source information on the status of the expected appeal of the injunction?Folks can find the answers to the majority of their questions by reading the two files, below. The first one is a compilation of applicable Maryland firearms laws as they will be on October 1, and the second is the recent injunction order. By reading the laws, first, then reading the injunction, it’s very clear as to what applies and what does not apply.
2A Maryland _ 2023 updated handgun laws:
Title 4 Subtitle 1 §4-111 (pages 34-38)
Title 4 Subtitle 6 §6-411 (pages 80-81)
https://www.2amaryland.org/legislative/2023/MARYLAND_GUN_LAWS_2023.pdf
Injunction filed 9/29/23
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.536809/gov.uscourts.mdd.536809.32.0.pdf
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Here is the Kipke v Moore page.Thanks for the first source information. Where can I find the similar first source information on the status of the expected appeal of the injunction?
Thanks once again.Here is the Kipke v Moore page.
Kipke v. Moore, 1:23-cv-01293 - CourtListener.com
Docket for Kipke v. Moore, 1:23-cv-01293 — Brought to you by Free Law Project, a non-profit dedicated to creating high quality open legal information.www.courtlistener.com
Are you talking about with, or without a W&C permit?So, it appears as though someone won't be in danger of being arrested from carrying an unloaded pistol in a gym bag though the parking lot of Cindy's Hot Shots to do a little plinking.
...but is that same person in danger of being arrested for carrying that same unloaded pistol in the the same gym bag in the trunk of a vehicle going up the BW parkway and down 175??
Is it reasonable to opine that that the judge has spoken to the defendants unofficially and learned there is not expected to be an appeal of the injunction prior to trial?
So, it appears as though someone won't be in danger of being arrested from carrying an unloaded pistol in a gym bag though the parking lot of Cindy's Hot Shots to do a little plinking.
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...but is that same person in danger of being arrested for carrying that same unloaded pistol in the the same gym bag in the trunk of a vehicle going up the BW parkway and down 175??
I don't see anything in there that distinguishes between a private dwelling and private business open to the public concerning affirmative permission to carry.
If you read the law, then the order it will be clear. There is a section in the law that references property, buildings, and dwellings. (On page 80 of the file linked below.)
https://www.2amaryland.org/legislative/2023/MARYLAND_GUN_LAWS_2023.pdf
A dollar store luggage lock through the zipper tab of the gym bag and a sewn loop turns a gym bag or a pistol rug into a locked case.Taking a leap of assumption that said hypothetical person is going to/ from said Cindy Hot Shots , and doesn't have a W&C , and their route of travel only Includes B-W Parkway & rt 175 , tben probably not require locked case .
But yeah , I had to put enough caveats and assumptions into that statement .
So between now and December 31 , I'll be generous , and not accuse anyone of BGOS for transporting with locked case . Kind of a 90 day window for everyone to get up to speed , and learn all the sensitive boundaries .
A motion of a temper tantrum,but how could this overturn the partial preliminary injunction????The State filed a motion today asserting the relief granted in the PI enjoining enforcement of restrictions on carry without the owner’s consent in private dwellings was error.
The State asserts the original PI order enjoined enforcement of the restrictions in both dwellings as well as buildings containing businesses open to the public, but neither Novotny nor Kipke challenged the restrictions on carry without consent in dwellings, thus plaintiffs are not entitled to this relief in the PI:
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A number of the media companies are listing all places in the bill, even after they mention the PI. Just go by the bill and PI - the news folks are very unreliable.Fox45 did an article on this.
Federal judge halts key provisions of Maryland's Gun Safety Act just before enactment
Less than 48 hours before Maryland’s restrictive Gun Safety Act of 2023 was scheduled to become state law, a federal judge issued a court ruling preventing certfoxbaltimore.com
In it, they listed places still off limits and listed "a location licensed to sell or dispense alcohol or cannabis for on-site consumption" as one of the still off limits places. Where do they get that from? I didn't see that in the order.
It simply is a clerical clarification that the PI does not apply to private dwellings. No impact on us from the intent/meaning of the PI.A motion of a temper tantrum,but how could this overturn the partial preliminary injunction????
Quite a few media outlets, large and small have published story's about "Maryland's new gun law effective Oct. 1" with no mention of the PI.Fox45 did an article on this.
Federal judge halts key provisions of Maryland's Gun Safety Act just before enactment
Less than 48 hours before Maryland’s restrictive Gun Safety Act of 2023 was scheduled to become state law, a federal judge issued a court ruling preventing certfoxbaltimore.com
In it, they listed places still off limits and listed "a location licensed to sell or dispense alcohol or cannabis for on-site consumption" as one of the still off limits places. Where do they get that from? I didn't see that in the order.