SB1 on voting list in House Jud Committee for this am 4/6/23 @ 9am

[Occam]

I should never subject myself to watching this stuff live. At least not without having my wife pick up a home AED machine and reading the manual first.

 

[pcfixer]

Watching NOW. R- Delegate Chisholm good speach.

 

[welder516]

Del. Chisholm good and Del. Kipke doing well.


It is a massive wall to climb, but i always believe

 

[eruby]

Finally, Kathy Szeliga says the simple things.

Kathy Szeliga was dead to me

I don't remember why

Maybe a Fat Larry sucker egg , or maybe one of her (many) votes

Getting old is bullshitt

 

[Odarlin1]

Kipke is doing a fine job with the stats. How anyone can vote for that bill without knowing the facts or after knowing the facts is just beyond my comprehension

 

[Odarlin1]

Kathy Szeliga was dead to me

I don't remember why

Maybe a Fat Larry sucker egg , or maybe one of her (many) votes

Getting old is bullshitt

She voted to take away the Sons of Confederate tags, as well she got caught up in voting for the Red Flag law before the 2A community jumped on everyone. She was the WHIP at the time and most of the GOP followed her lead. But they had a chance to rectify the vote. Her statement was - No one contacted us about the bill to say not to vote for it. Haha. But maybe she's learned

 

[Occam]

Kathy Szeliga was dead to me

I don't remember why

Maybe a Fat Larry sucker egg , or maybe one of her (many) votes

Getting old is bullshitt

Don't really know where she is on the GOP Purity-Test-O-Meter. But she called out the Ds on the BS with regard to this bill. Kept it short and sweet. Kipke is doing much more of a dissertation - looking at both the broad constitutional/philosophical and the nitty-gritty details. Might as well be explaining it to the trees outside the building, of course.

 

[RavensChick]

Kipke is doing a fine job with the stats. How anyone can vote for that bill without knowing the facts or after knowing the facts is just beyond my comprehension

It's never about doing the right thing, or being guided by the Constitution, facts and data. It's what the party head wants. Period.

 

[smokey]

Kipke needs to talk for about the next 8 hours

 

[Odarlin1]

Kipke needs to talk for about the next 8 hours

Right! Filibuster time

 

[Odarlin1]

Not sure I like Miller's amendment - raises Red Flags -

 

[welder516]

Kipke is a Trophy Delegate

 

[smokey]

april fleming miller currently proposing an amendment where you're exempted if you have a restraining order against someone else. Let's see dems vote against this and then claim to stand for women. Brilliant strategy. Keep proposing extremely specific amendments for vulnerable groups and force democrats to vote against the right of these groups to protect themselves.

 

[smokey]

Not sure I like Miller's amendment - raises Red Flags -

I do. How can dems claim to support women and THEN vote against victims of domestic violence to protect themselves specifically?

 

[Odarlin1]

I do. How can dems claim to support women and THEN vote against victims of domestic violence to protect themselves specifically?

I understand her strategy. But with Red Flags laws I just dont like the carve out.

 

[lazarus]

I guess DV victims don't get a chance to protect themselves, because somehow that makes them more vulnerable.

 

[smokey]

I understand her strategy. But with Red Flags laws I just dont like the carve out.

Clippinger right now is arguing that the abusers can get restraining orders against the victims and get their rights back. He is arguing what we claim all the time is the danger of red flag laws... again, I love the strategy.

 

[Odarlin1]

Grammar still one the best GOP - not a RINO in any sense and stands tight on his votes. Will always be a favorite of mine.

 

[Occam]

Grammer is running down the ways the entire bill bangs headlong into Bruen.

 

[jc1240]

I guess DV victims don't get a chance to protect themselves, because somehow that makes them more vulnerable.

DV victims are one of the demonrat party's reasons to exist. Just like with "everything is racist" (you can't survive without my benevolence GIVING you something), if DV victims could defend themselves, there would be less of a "need" for demonrats.