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  • John from MD

    American Patriot
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    May 12, 2005
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    A little while ago, a fellow MDSer and owner of Saint Firearms in Essex told me he had a .36 cal CVA Squirrel Rifle in his shop. Shortly thereafter, the Squirrel Rifle left with me. :D

    The first time I shot it, the temp was like 25* and I only shot it at 16 yards. I could see it had potential even at that range. A previous owner had added a Williams Peep sight to the rear of the barrel but it was too low for my face so I replaced it with an old CVA sight I had laying around. I also put a Patridge front sight on and removed the bead type that was on there. My old eyes need a wider sight these days.

    Fast Forward to a few days ago, and I got to wring it out at 50 yards. The attached targets are the last two I shot just to show the difference a patch makes. Prior to shooting them, I worked through 25 to 40 gn loads using .350 Hornady balls and Pyrodex P powder.

    The shots in the outfield are different patch material/thickness that didn't work. Those in the X ring are what works well. I buy all my patch material from Joannes fabric store and I take a micrometer (not a caliper ) when I go shopping. Additionally, I do not wash my patch material as I use a water based lube (Ballistol and water 8 to 1) which softens the sizing in the fabric just fine.

    These targets were shot from a front sandbag rest at 50 yards with the open sights. To say I am happy is a vast understatement. Considering my old eyes, it is amazing that I did so well. As I said before, these two targets are representative of all the others I shot that day. I shot almost 100 rounds and got many x rings hits. I now have four types of patch material that work well with this rifle.

    As for loads, 25, 30 and 40 all gave 1 to 11/2 inch groups with the good patches. 35 grains was the magic number though. Also, I have learned not to clean when shooting on .32, .36 and .40 cal rifles. Why I don't know but you get better groups if you don't clean. With my .45, 50 and .54's I clean between shots to get the best groups.

    BTW, last weekend, BP was totally out of Pyrodex and they must have had 50 pounds the week before.
     

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    tjiann

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    That's awesome John! Congrats on the gun and success. Curious why you prefer the "P" to the "RS" powder?

    Also, FYI, I stopped by BP on Wednesday and they had a bunch of Pyrodex P and XXX in. I bought the last pound of RS they had in stock that day.
     

    slsc98

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    Awesome! :party29:

    Your outing was precisely what I had in mind when I ordered up a new T/C Cherokee in .32 cal as soon as they were introduced, back in the … early 80’s? Late 70’s? It was NOT a kit gun and I went to lengths to make sure it came with the set triggers. Unfortunately, I never fired it and by the time I posted it up for sale In The Box on Campfire in something like 2012 it kicked off a bidding war I never saw coming. Wound up going to a father in CO who really (REALLY!) wanted it for his daughter. I never found out how tight a group it’d shoot but, he did send me photos of she and he hunting together with it. Pretty cool, really

    Reading your range report allowed me to enjoy your successful outing, vicariously!


    just to show the difference a patch makes. …

    :lol: LOL, I read ^that^ and my mind immediately started cataloguing all the other facets of life on Earth to which, “the right patch makes all the difference!:lol2:
     

    The Saint

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    Glad it worked out well on your end; I only wish I could find more small bore sidelocks for decent prices these days...
     

    John from MD

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    That's awesome John! Congrats on the gun and success. Curious why you prefer the "P" to the "RS" powder?

    Also, FYI, I stopped by BP on Wednesday and they had a bunch of Pyrodex P and XXX in. I bought the last pound of RS they had in stock that day.

    I use RS only in heavyloads for .50's and any loads in my .54 and .58. It leaves too much fouling in small barrel guns.
     

    John from MD

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    Awesome! :party29:

    Your outing was precisely what I had in mind when I ordered up a new T/C Cherokee in .32 cal as soon as they were introduced, back in the … early 80’s? Late 70’s? It was NOT a kit gun and I went to lengths to make sure it came with the set triggers. Unfortunately, I never fired it and by the time I posted it up for sale In The Box on Campfire in something like 2012 it kicked off a bidding war I never saw coming. Wound up going to a father in CO who really (REALLY!) wanted it for his daughter. I never found out how tight a group it’d shoot but, he did send me photos of she and he hunting together with it. Pretty cool, really

    Reading your range report allowed me to enjoy your successful outing, vicariously!




    :lol: LOL, I read ^that^ and my mind immediately started cataloguing all the other facets of life on Earth to which, “the right patch makes all the difference!:lol2:

    I had a Traditions Crockett .32 a couple years ago but .32 was harder to handle with arthritic fingers and I sold it to a young fellow MDSer for teaching his kids to shoot. :party29:
     

    noddaz

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    Jan 9, 2014
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    Arnold
    Nice rifle and nice target results.

    BTW, I have not seen any squirrels shooting rifles in AA County. :)

    noddaz
     

    Horseman308

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    Jan 27, 2016
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    Very cool. I keep thinking I need a .36 squirrel rifle. But my .40 really does just fine. I probably need both.
     

    John from MD

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    Very cool. I keep thinking I need a .36 squirrel rifle. But my .40 really does just fine. I probably need both. ��

    I have found that my .40 cal Green Mountain barrel is one of the most accurate short range muzzleloaders that I have ever seen. I remember reading somewhere years ago about why the .40 was so accurate but I never retained the article.
     

    IronDuck

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    Jan 11, 2021
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    Frederick ish MD
    I'm also working with an old .32 BP, I purchased for squirrel hunting. My grouping so far is not squirrel ready! I should P, seems to work fine. The accuracy challenge will improve.
     

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    John from MD

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    Try some different patch material and patch lubes. In my experience, #40 cotton drill is excellent and 8 to 1 Ballistol and water (or other water soluble cutting oil) give the best target accuracy. For hunting accuracy, 1-11/2 inch at 50 yards, commercial pre lubed patches will work.
     

    IronDuck

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    Try some different patch material and patch lubes. In my experience, #40 cotton drill is excellent and 8 to 1 Ballistol and water (or other water soluble cutting oil) give the best target accuracy. For hunting accuracy, 1-11/2 inch at 50 yards, commercial pre lubed patches will work.

    Thanks, that was my first day shooting the .32 bp. Its a very old, very used gun. I was more interested in making certain it would hold together than accuracy during that shoot. I didn't doubt it was safe, but the wood and the lock have seen better days. I used old t-shirt patches, 20 gr. P powder. .310 balls. I shot, dry patch first, then spit, then a bore butter with the last two.
    Next time at the range, I will be trying to get into squirrel accuracy. Going to try .018 pillow ticking patches.
     

    Melnic

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    Dec 27, 2012
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    I like the length of that John,
    Much easier to shoot offhand than the Crockett I bet.
     

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    John from MD

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    I like the length of that John,
    Much easier to shoot offhand than the Crockett I bet.

    It is but it has a quirk. The comb does not have as much drop as most ML rifles. Therefore, the sights need to be higher or I am digging my cheek bone into the stock. I have an order from TOTW coming today with some higher sights to make it more comfortable.
     

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