Supreme Court flunked basic high school history

[The sphinx]

http://www.esquire.com/_mobile/blogs/politics/bateman-on-guns-120313

 

[The sphinx]

Absolutely pathetic

 

[Mark75H]

So, you are pro-Bateman?

 

[JettaRed]

Does anyone know what branch of service LTC Bateman is in? As an ex-military officer myself, I am ashamed of him using his title in a blog of his personal opinion (by the way, I know that blogs are personal opinions, so I apologize for being redundant). The disclaimer that it is his personal opinion is rather lame when he includes his military rank in his by line.

 

[teratos]

He's and idiot. He doesn't know what a "well-regulated militia" is, nor does he understand the purpose of maintaining an armed populace. Because he doesn't understand this on the most fundamental levels, you cannot argue with him.

 

[The sphinx]

This article he wrote is a disgrace to the oath he took. You know the one about the constitution.

 

[jpk1md]

http://www.esquire.com/_mobile/blogs/politics/bateman-on-guns-120313

Looking forward to Lt. Col. Robert Bateman taking a dirt nap

 

[Matlack]

The dear LTC lives in England where you cannot carry a bottle of soda without being considered a violent offender. Where roaming gangs control the streets and if you try to defend yourself you are now the criminal. He is supposedly a US soldier, who by his own admission is trampling on the very constitution he swore an oath to protect. May he RIH.

If the dear LTC actually understood the meaning of a "well regulated militia" he would know that at the time of the framing of the constitution it meant individual citizens, not a state run militia which was referred to as an organized militia. The National Guard would either be considered a standing army or organized militia. In terms of a "well regulated" and "organized" are very different. "well regulated" is also very different from a "standing army".

 

[The sphinx]

Well said matlack

 

[Scratch]

Hamilton addressed the matter in the Federalist Papers:

http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa29.htm

And Madison as well:

http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa46.htm

 

[Scratch]

If the dear LTC actually understood the meaning of a "well regulated militia" he would know that at the time of the framing of the constitution it meant individual citizens, not a state run militia which was referred to as an organized militia.

If someone wants to know what the actual writers and signers of the Constitution intended regarding "well regulated militias" the Federalist papers are essential reading. The militia referred to were indeed state-run militias, comprised of citizens of each state and with officers chosen by the individual states; as opposed to a standing army controlled by the federal government and with officers chosen by the federal government. Madison writes in Federalist Paper #46 of the state militias' ability to thwart any attempt by a standing army controlled by the federal government to take over the country.

The term "well-regulated" at that time was synonymous with 'in proper working order'. The Militia Act of 1792 further defined the militias' composition, and the extent and nature of the militias' authorities and relationships with the federal government.

http://www.constitution.org/mil/mil_act_1792.htm

 

[JettaRed]

The dear LTC lives in England where you cannot carry a bottle of soda without being considered a violent offender.

Isn't London where that British soldier was hacked to death by some guy with a machete while others looked on this summer?


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[lsw]

There is another point of view about the meaning of that first part of the 2nd Amendment. Since an armed militia or standing army of some kind is a necessity for government, it is also a necessity for individual citizens to be armed, should they need to resist a government that attempts to oppress the people through use of that army.

 

[Infantry23]

That article is full of stupid. He will pry them from my cold, dead hands? That's funny shit since I have 5 sons that are being trained how to use my firearms, and use them against people like Master Bateman if need be. F u kernal.

 

[Scratch]

There is another point of view about the meaning of that first part of the 2nd Amendment. Since an armed militia or standing army of some kind is a necessity for government, it is also a necessity for individual citizens to be armed, should they need to resist a government that attempts to oppress the people through use of that army.

That's not "another point of view"; it's naturally followed with the second part of 2A.

 

[Beretta950BS]

http://www.esquire.com/_mobile/blogs/politics/bateman-on-guns-120313

Many "scholars" also seem to not understand "well regulated." In 1787 "well regulated" meant - "to be regular..." to be "well prepared." All townsmen "WERE" the milita and to be well regulated {well prepared} each townsmen must own/bear arms and be practiced so they could be "well prepared" as a moments notice.

Attorneys spend their lives crafting documents that can be interpreted "either way" so as to promote litigation and thus foster their business.

 

[Beretta950BS]

That's not "another point of view"; it's naturally followed with the second part of 2A.

yes

 

[Boom Boom]

Many "scholars" also seem to not understand "well regulated." In 1787 "well regulated" meant - "to be regular..." to be "well prepared." All townsmen "WERE" the milita and to be well regulated {well prepared} each townsmen must own/bear arms and be practiced so they could be "well prepared" as a moments notice.

More specifically, the term "well-regulated" in 2A means "smooth-running", as with a regulator clock.

 

[Scratch]

Many "scholars" also seem to not understand "well regulated." In 1787 "well regulated" meant - "to be regular..." to be "well prepared." All townsmen "WERE" the milita and to be well regulated {well prepared} each townsmen must own/bear arms and be practiced so they could be "well prepared" as a moments notice.

Not "townsmen" per se; rather "each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years". There were also certain exceptions.

 

[Beretta950BS]

More specifically, the term "well-regulated" in 2A means "smooth-running", as with a regulator clock.

Anti's try to apply 21st century meaning to 18th century text.

In this Christmas season "Don we now our gay apparel..." Does that mean some Guy named Don is wearing Homosexual clothing? or did it mean now we put on our festive clothing for the holiday season?

Of course those who apply the meaning of text in its written context know EXACTLY what it means.