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  • Biggfoot44

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    Aug 2, 2009
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    Yeah cause Virginia is red anymore

    Is Va in April '23 better than Md in April '23 ? Well yeah !

    But Virginia just barely regained a little ground in last election , still has their foot on the political banana peel , and the dual demographic trends are still continuing . I wish the best for our Va brethren , but be prepared for another potential relocation in a cpl years .

    Or skip ahead to looking at Harper's Ferry/ Martinsburg/ Wardensville in WV now , and skip the intermeadate step .
     

    trickg

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    Jul 22, 2008
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    Is Va in April '23 better than Md in April '23 ? Well yeah !

    But Virginia just barely regained a little ground in last election , still has their foot on the political banana peel , and the dual demographic trends are still continuing . I wish the best for our Va brethren , but be prepared for another potential relocation in a cpl years .

    Or skip ahead to looking at Harper's Ferry/ Martinsburg/ Wardensville in WV now , and skip the intermediate step .
    That's my plan. Part of my retirement plan utilizes the considerable equity in my current home to purchase something else out of state, and at this point I'm looking at WVa. Initially I had looked at a few other states - NC, SC, TN, FL, TX, AZ - but if my adult kids are going to be local I don't want to be too far from them. I do, however, want to wind up in a state that's pretty safely conservative. I'd like to have enough ground where I can clear a rifle lane for a couple hundred yards and set up a pistol range.

    That's the idea anyway.
     

    Bertfish

    Throw bread on me
    Mar 13, 2013
    17,713
    White Marsh, MD
    That's my plan. Part of my retirement plan utilizes the considerable equity in my current home to purchase something else out of state, and at this point I'm looking at WVa. Initially I had looked at a few other states - NC, SC, TN, FL, TX, AZ - but if my adult kids are going to be local I don't want to be too far from them. I do, however, want to wind up in a state that's pretty safely conservative. I'd like to have enough ground where I can clear a rifle lane for a couple hundred yards and set up a pistol range.

    That's the idea anyway.
    WV is looking more and more appealing to me as time goes on. I used to figure lower DE but not anymore
     

    Occam

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    WV is looking more and more appealing to me as time goes on. I used to figure lower DE but not anymore
    West Virginia will be the last stand in the Mid-Atlantic. The eastern WV counties will be the last place you can live with reasonable access to the business activities of the I-95 corridor and NoVa/DC-Metro and still expect another decade or two of freedom in your at-home life. With things like high-speed internet finally appearing in spots like that, there might even be some real investment in business/industry migration and economic vitality where it's been ebbing along with the coal business.
     

    Afrikeber

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    Jan 14, 2013
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    West Virginia will be the last stand in the Mid-Atlantic. The eastern WV counties will be the last place you can live with reasonable access to the business activities of the I-95 corridor and NoVa/DC-Metro and still expect another decade or two of freedom in your at-home life. With things like high-speed internet finally appearing in spots like that, there might even be some real investment in business/industry migration and economic vitality where it's been ebbing along with the coal business.
    Problem with that is the “unwanted” that ruined Maryland will migrate to the eastern side of WV for the same reasons. As they do they will permeate the local politics take over and then permeate the state politics. Might take awhile hence those in their 50’s> will not have to worry but their kids will experience what we experience now in Maryland, the socialist takeover of states.
     

    Crazytrain

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    Problem with that is the “unwanted” that ruined Maryland will migrate to the eastern side of WV for the same reasons. As they do they will permeate the local politics take over and then permeate the state politics. Might take awhile hence those in their 50’s> will not have to worry but their kids will experience what we experience now in Maryland, the socialist takeover of states.
    Maybe.

    There does seem to be a migration from failing liberal areas to conservative areas. The migration is of two different characteristics.

    Number one, the dreaded Locust Effect, where folks ruin an area, decide to move to a better area, and not realizing it is their values that ruined area number one, they proceed to ruin area number two. And they continue to spread like locusts, destroying everything in their paths. This has been going on forever.

    Number two is the much more beneficial Refugee Effect. In this case, folks who feel alienated by the values of their current location move to a location with values that more closely meet their own. This explains Florida, a perpetual swing state, moving hard to the right, especially after their aggressive back to life policies during the COVID era attracted lots of right leaners. West Virginia used to be more evenly split as well but is becoming more and more conservative as time goes on. Tennessee, too. Even Texas appears to have reversed the blueing trend and appears to be getting more conservative as they absorb displaced Conservatives. Maybe Arizona. I'm sure there are many other states. It will also explain states like California getting more and more loony as right leaning folks escape, decreasing the political dilution and resulting in ever farther left leaning policies. I think Maryland is going down this path as well, although not nearly as quickly. This is a fairly recent phenomenon.

    Number one eventually results in a lefty, centrally driven, paradise.

    Number two sets the stage for a "National Divorce" as massively disparate political beliefs coalesce around geographic borders.

    Choose your poison, but I think the Refugees are beginning to outnumber the Locusts.
     

    BeoBill

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    Interesting that I came across this just now.

    Blue State Exodus: New IRS Migration Data Shows New York, California, Illinois Hemorrhaging Citizens and Tax Dollars for a Move to Red States

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    lazarus

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    Jun 23, 2015
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    You are correct. So, how did we not get the injunction on the ridiculous MoCo bill, but they get it on this bill in Illinois? Granted, the bills are different, but still.

    End of the day, I think both the Illinois bill and the MD FSA2013 ban on "assault weapons" will end up being overturned.
    I thought a PI standard was irreparable harm and that your case was better than unlikely to succeed.

    Irreparable harm and unlikely to win, no PI. Reparable harm and likely to win on the merits, no PI.
     

    lazarus

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    I mean, even for Cali that is a drop in the bucket though. I don't know what individual AGIs are, but the GDP for California is 2.89 TRILLION. So that outflow of AGI represents 1% loss. 2021 to 2022, California had an increase of $20 billion in GDP. So even with the los, they increase GDP almost 1%.

    Not something I see hurting them much at all. A quick scan of GDP figures, that is a bigger hit for NY. About a 1.5% loess because of the smaller GDP, but not much smaller outflow.

    Everyone else seems to be in the tenths of a percentage range of loss of tax dollars (AGI doesn't equate directly to tax dollars, just like GDP doesn't, but best metric with what is published that I can find).
     

    delaware_export

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    Apr 10, 2018
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    I am just not sure id consider some of this moving around a win. When the locust move, they bring their old dem voting habits with them

    a couple of those “winning” red states wouldn’t take many new folks with dem voting habits to swing blue
     

    BeoBill

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    Using the law of averages, it's unavoidable that some "Lib Cuckoos" would migrate along with normal people. We can hope that they will remain in the minority.
     

    Occam

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    I mean, even for Cali that is a drop in the bucket though. I don't know what individual AGIs are, but the GDP for California is 2.89 TRILLION. So that outflow of AGI represents 1% loss. 2021 to 2022, California had an increase of $20 billion in GDP. So even with the los, they increase GDP almost 1%.

    Not something I see hurting them much at all. A quick scan of GDP figures, that is a bigger hit for NY. About a 1.5% loess because of the smaller GDP, but not much smaller outflow.

    Everyone else seems to be in the tenths of a percentage range of loss of tax dollars (AGI doesn't equate directly to tax dollars, just like GDP doesn't, but best metric with what is published that I can find).
    There's more to it than that, though. California's GDP includes money spent by the state government, and money spent by the people they give it to, even if those people don't contribute meaningfully to the state's tax revenue. Guaranteed that the people leaving are disproportionately in the camp that had been net contributors to the state's coffers and its endless entitlement spending.
     

    Tungsten

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    Jan 1, 2012
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    Elkridge, Leftistan
    Using the law of averages, it's unavoidable that some "Lib Cuckoos" would migrate along with normal people. We can hope that they will remain in the minority.
    Doesn't matter if it is only a few. They are like cancer cells. They will indoctrinate and/or molest anyone near them until they reach a critical mass of destruction.
     

    BeoBill

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    Oct 3, 2013
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    New York’s income sinks nearly $16B compared to pre-COVID as residents flee at alarming rate
    New York’s pandemic-induced exodus is killing the state’s bottom line.

    The Empire State’s pool of adjusted gross income shrank by nearly $16 billion in 2021 compared to just two years ago — representing a major loss in potential tax revenue compared to pre-COVID levels, according to newly released data from the Internal Revenue Service cited by the Wall Street Journal.

    The data shows New York lost a whopping $24.5 billion in state adjusted gross income in 2021 as residents relocated. That marked a major uptick from the state’s loss of $19.5 billion in 2020 and just $9 billion in 2019.

    Much of that has wound up in Florida, which has seen a $10 billion windfall in 2021 stemming from newly arrived New York transplants, according to the data...
     

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