I'm confused on the "drop your pistol" thing. Step on your pistol thing? As an instructor I taught retention of your weapon. As a combatant I never dropped my weapon. That's a good way to end up dead. I did 26 years and 4 combat deployments, maybe I'm just not "tactical "enough to understand all this cool stuff.
Did we fire with people beyond 180 degree line yes, did we drop our pistols yes, did we break any cardinal safety rules no.
Why and why? I'd like to know their reasoning.
And yes, intentionally dropping your pistol means you gave up your weapon intentionally. Let's practice that. Practicing picking up a pistol is very easy to train while in your living room with a safe weapon.
The point I have heard is that when an officer demands you drop the gun that is what you do. Any other movement even a look over your shoulder can be misinterpreted as an offensive move.
And that it's a tool and is meant to be used as such, its not a safe queen that needs to be gently placed on a doily.
Is generally how I understood it.
Okay I'll buy that for arguments sake, however, couldn't the same thing be achieved using an unloaded weapon or blue/red training gun?
Like the bullet through the side of someone's truck.No, then it is not realistic.
If I did this on the line with any of my student's I'd be out the door faster than the gun could hit the ground. If the point is to show the abuse a gun will take, well there's a million videos that do that or unload the gun, dump some dirt on it, reload it and fire it. If the point was to practice dropping the gun when confronted by an officer, then you can use a dummy rubber training gun to get the same practice in.
Trying to make sense of this makes my head hurt because of all the stupid that this "drill" creates.
I don't know how trustworthy that site is, but I do know that I take everything online with a grain of salt. Unless that site or any other site that can verified the person is who they said they are, then I will only believe the info so much. There is too much of the story left out, want proof, name names...but don't give me "I brought a Pepsi and went to a range where the instructor told me to drop it and he stomped on it and a Pepsi went off and hit a truck..." Sorry, but I'll still call it bs..till names are told and more proof
And no, I haven't or won't go back and check it. I read it the first time, thought it was dumb and now moved on
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It just sound's stupid to me. As an instructor I worked with new folks in basic training, cops/OSI, Special Operations and six years at SOCJFCOM in Norfolk Va. It sounds stupid, very stupid. Really, really dumb. In fact if you dropped your weapon in my class I would have been upset with you. If you stepped on it I'd have been really pissed off. I see no point in it and cannot be convinced it has a reason.
The only reason is for theater. Too many "instructors" are more entertainer than instructor.
The reason guys like this thrive is the demand for entertainment vs instruction. People love to be entertained but hate to be told how to do things.
The fact that they will not be able to use the range again..The guy over at calguns is reporting it 2nd hand right?
I wouldn't have done that.
If it isn't true, or even if it's reported first hand and is exaggerated you're exposing yourself to a world of liability. Unfortunately.
Still not good enough,..... need more evidence. :pThe fact that they will not be able to use the range again..
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=4253391
Hmm.Still not good enough,..... need more evidence. :p