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  • rob-cubed

    In need of moderation
    Sep 24, 2009
    5,387
    Holding the line in Baltimore
    It's hard to care about politics when you're young. Politicians will do anything for another vote, so who cares who is in office? Business as usual. I have nothing to lose, so what does it matter?

    That's apathetic and short-sighted, but it's part of being young. And maybe it's not entirely untrue.

    Once you have something to lose, income to tax, rights to forfeit... suddenly it becomes more important who writes and passes the laws.
     

    G29guy

    Banned
    BANNED!!!
    Feb 2, 2016
    361
    DC area
    Somehow politics came up in conversation at work today. Something that literally never happens with the crowd here. I steered the conversation towards the election and tried to get an impromptu poll of who people thought they'd be voting for. It was 4 other guys between the ages of 22-26. Couple of observations.
    • None of them knew the difference between the parties or who was running versus who.
    • None of them knew what the parties' core values are, let alone the definitions of capitalism, socialism, democracy, etc...
    • The entirety of their information on the candidates has come from facebook or instagram.
    • None of them have any intention of voting, they just don't see the point. :sad20:

    I would say majority of people who vote democrat don't actually know the difference..they think the Dems are the minorities saviors and Repubs are the racist KKK...they don't understand the relationship of Democrat=Dixiecrat=KKK...the only thing that changed over the last 150yrs is they went from obvious enslavement to discreet enslavement and control by the govt...also, supporting illegal immigration (amnesty/ non enforcement) is sanctioning modern day slavery...it's allowing someone to be taken advantage of for less than minimum wage...AND....when the illegals become some sort of legal, they are no longer cheap...they want their $15/hr, vacation time, insurance....so....
     

    Dave Greenberg

    Active Member
    Oct 24, 2015
    369
    Millersville
    my first was for W. against Kerry. mattered as much as a vote for an R in MD as well.

    Same here. I was 21 when I casted my first vote and the only reason I voted for Bush was because I was raised in a Republican household so it's all I knew. Vote Republican and vote for Texas(I was born there). I knew nothing about politics. I didn't start getting into politics until about halfway through Obama's first term. I kept seeing old people camping out in front of the MVA and other public places protesting, holding up signs saying "Impeach Obama". I just thought they were crazy old heads at the time. Now I can see why they were acting the way they were. I didn't do social media(Still don't have a FB) and I only ever watched movies along with the occasional show so I had no clue what was going on and didn't really care either. My fiance has FB and she says it's all about Bernie Sanders or Trump. Young people don't really talk about or care about Hillary as far as I know.
     

    abcabc

    Member
    Nov 30, 2015
    88
    First time I voted was for Obama (2nd term), the next time I vote it will be for Bernie. I refuse to vote for Hilary mainly because of her last name, but there are other issues. I don't want dynasties in the oval office, that's how Kings are made.

    I know the candidates that are currently running.
    I know the difference between the parties and the definitions mentioned by OP
    Most of my info has come from reputable news sources (not cnn or foxnews) Aljazeera, BBC local papers, etc.
    I do intend to vote, but I don't see the point when votes are locked geographically by the stupid electoral college. It should be popular vote.
     

    zoostation

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    Moderator
    Jan 28, 2007
    22,857
    Abingdon
    It honestly wouldn't surprise me to see the democrats try to lower the voting age to 15. And succeed. They'll do anything for votes, that's well proven by now I think. A few years ago it would have seemed implausible. Of course, a few years ago the idea that the state could make it a law that some male weirdo had a "right" to come into a public bathroom my daughter was using just because he was identifying a little feminine that day would seem implausible too.
     

    Z_Man

    Ultimate Member
    May 23, 2014
    2,698
    Harford County
    Same here. I was 21 when I casted my first vote and the only reason I voted for Bush was because I was raised in a Republican household so it's all I knew. Vote Republican and vote for Texas(I was born there). I knew nothing about politics. I didn't start getting into politics until about halfway through Obama's first term. I kept seeing old people camping out in front of the MVA and other public places protesting, holding up signs saying "Impeach Obama". I just thought they were crazy old heads at the time. Now I can see why they were acting the way they were. I didn't do social media(Still don't have a FB) and I only ever watched movies along with the occasional show so I had no clue what was going on and didn't really care either. My fiance has FB and she says it's all about Bernie Sanders or Trump. Young people don't really talk about or care about Hillary as far as I know.

    I can tell you for a fact nobody under 40 likes Hillary. NOBODY, biggest bleeding heart liberals 35 and younger loath Hillary. they hate Hillary just as much or more than 2A supporters hate her. If Hillary does indeed win the primary, these people will either protest (on the internet, not actually go out and do it), not vote, or write in sanders. even if they vote the D party line on the rest of the ballet. the exception are the most delusional of the feminazis that believe all men are evil and should just be removed from the population.

    what the media doesn't tell you, is that millennial ARE the largest group of people in The US. they are now larger than boomers. sanders is at least an 80% vote from that group. its the older, "I remember when kennedy was shot when I was a child" libtards that support Hillary. that and those who approve of hedgehogs on their heads. These people firmly believe that the D party of Kennedy is the same as it is today. it is ignorance of that group, plain and simple

    do I support sanders. Somewhat. most of what he says isn't political BS, he speaks his mind, and he has held his convictions for 5 decades. you know what you are going to get, and he has no plans on secretly changing his views to "getcha". and Bloomberg is against him, and he is the uber fascist Hillary wants to be. Sanders is the most "one of the people" of any of the candidates, and that is what our country was founded on.

    of realistic possibilities, I would choose Cruz, but if I had the option right now to put sanders in the white house (no Hillary VP, cuz that guy would be dead FEB 2017 due to some "illness" if she was VP) I would just so Hillary doesn't have a shot. that is my biggest concern of this election, is that Hillary becomes president, and that is BY FAR the worst outcome.

    I firmly believe anyone who is on the right side of the isle who wouldn't take this option is a closet Hillary supporter, and afraid of Liberty. As a self proclaimed supporter of Liberty, Hillary and Rubio are the biggest threats to Liberty (of those who still have a shot at the whitehouse). followed by sanders, then trump. Cruz being the least likely to restrict freedom. Yes, I firmly believe we will lose more freedoms under Rubio than Sanders. The drug companies, the banking industry, and the military industrial complex is just as big a threat to liberty as restricting the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments openly by politicians. Well the 4th amendment reduction is caused by the military industrial complex, but I digress.
     

    TheBert

    The Member
    MDS Supporter
    Aug 10, 2013
    7,756
    Gaithersburg, Maryland
    It honestly wouldn't surprise me to see the democrats try to lower the voting age to 15. And succeed. They'll do anything for votes, that's well proven by now I think. A few years ago it would have seemed implausible. Of course, a few years ago the idea that the state could make it a law that some male weirdo had a "right" to come into a public bathroom my daughter was using just because he was identifying a little feminine that day would seem implausible too.

    I would like to see the voting age raised back up to 21 at least and would be happier with 25. Until you are in your mid 20's you haven't experienced enough of life beyond your parents home to know what is really going on in the world.
     

    Z_Man

    Ultimate Member
    May 23, 2014
    2,698
    Harford County
    I would like to see the voting age raised back up to 21 at least and would be happier with 25. Until you are in your mid 20's you haven't experienced enough of life beyond your parents home to know what is really going on in the world.

    shall we raise the age to 25 to buy and own a firearm as well? you can use that same argument for driving, gun ownership, voting, drinking, having a job, being allowed to buy a house/rent an apartment.

    not everyone who is 19 is a spoiled brat starting the 6 year plan at party U. if one believes in freedom, then one should support ALL freedoms.
     

    PapiBarcelona

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 1, 2011
    7,370
    I was 19 at the time of the 04 election. I may as well have been first in line to vote. I felt well informed, though not obsessed with every detail. I've voted (often in futility) every election since. This disconnect amongst my peers is disheartening.

    Some reason I thought you were way younger. I was also 19 in 2004
     

    Dave Greenberg

    Active Member
    Oct 24, 2015
    369
    Millersville
    I can tell you for a fact nobody under 40 likes Hillary. NOBODY, biggest bleeding heart liberals 35 and younger loath Hillary. they hate Hillary just as much or more than 2A supporters hate her. If Hillary does indeed win the primary, these people will either protest (on the internet, not actually go out and do it), not vote, or write in sanders. even if they vote the D party line on the rest of the ballet. the exception are the most delusional of the feminazis that believe all men are evil and should just be removed from the population.

    what the media doesn't tell you, is that millennial ARE the largest group of people in The US. they are now larger than boomers. sanders is at least an 80% vote from that group. its the older, "I remember when kennedy was shot when I was a child" libtards that support Hillary. that and those who approve of hedgehogs on their heads. These people firmly believe that the D party of Kennedy is the same as it is today. it is ignorance of that group, plain and simple

    do I support sanders. Somewhat. most of what he says isn't political BS, he speaks his mind, and he has held his convictions for 5 decades. you know what you are going to get, and he has no plans on secretly changing his views to "getcha". and Bloomberg is against him, and he is the uber fascist Hillary wants to be. Sanders is the most "one of the people" of any of the candidates, and that is what our country was founded on.

    of realistic possibilities, I would choose Cruz, but if I had the option right now to put sanders in the white house (no Hillary VP, cuz that guy would be dead FEB 2017 due to some "illness" if she was VP) I would just so Hillary doesn't have a shot. that is my biggest concern of this election, is that Hillary becomes president, and that is BY FAR the worst outcome.

    I firmly believe anyone who is on the right side of the isle who wouldn't take this option is a closet Hillary supporter, and afraid of Liberty. As a self proclaimed supporter of Liberty, Hillary and Rubio are the biggest threats to Liberty (of those who still have a shot at the whitehouse). followed by sanders, then trump. Cruz being the least likely to restrict freedom. Yes, I firmly believe we will lose more freedoms under Rubio than Sanders. The drug companies, the banking industry, and the military industrial complex is just as big a threat to liberty as restricting the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments openly by politicians. Well the 4th amendment reduction is caused by the military industrial complex, but I digress.


    I hear ya. I am a Cruz supporter. I don't love him( I originally supported Rand), but he is the closest candidate match to me regarding policies. Bernie has some alright ideas but the guy kills me with the rhetoric and constant pandering to everyone not a white male. Not a fan of his policies regarding minimum wage. That would do nothing but lower the value of the dollar and in turn it would punish the middle class. Also, a Wall Street speculation tax will not fund what he promises.
     

    aireyc

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 14, 2013
    1,166
    I started following politics closely when I was 11 years old. I guess that makes me an outlier. :patriot:
     

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