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  • dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,128
    I really REALLY hope this can be brought up in court today.

    My other wonderment (purely rhetorical, I'm sure) is whether it's enough to reactivate the PII suit?

    It should be, and it should be, in my opinion.
     

    Inigoes

    Head'n for the hills
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 21, 2008
    49,682
    SoMD / West PA
    Folks, be VERY, VERY careful trying to access a government site using "hacking" tactics or methods. I would advise NOT testing the site. You may be violating Federal laws.

    Since there is no warning on this site, one may be OK. Just wouldn't "test the waters" on this one.

    :bs:

    Regular use is not hacking.

    It is the MSP's responsibility to safeguard any PII, plain and simple!
     

    JettaRed

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 13, 2013
    1,138
    Middletown
    Government means the federal government, or one of it's independent agencies.

    If the person who entered the information shared it with others and suggested that they try it, it may be a case of that person providing permission to access that specific record.

    My thoughts are that it refers to the federal government, as well. Not sure if Maryland has a similar statutes. However, if the MSP computer system connects to a federal computer system (e.g., transfers to or receives data from), the federal law may apply to the MSP.

    The FBI's CJIS Division operates computer networks and systems that interconnect with state, local, and tribal law enforcement agencies (e.g., Law Enforcement Online (LEO), National Data Exchange (NDex), Integrated Automated Fingerprint Identification System (IAFIS), to name a few).

    I'm not trying to be a buzz-kill here. I just don't want someone to get into deep trouble out of ignorance.
     

    JettaRed

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 13, 2013
    1,138
    Middletown
    :bs:

    Regular use is not hacking.

    It is the MSP's responsibility to safeguard any PII, plain and simple!

    Unauthorized or fraudulent access is not "regular" use.

    Now, unless Patrick is Mr. Munster with a DOB of 6/6/1966, he and anyone else using that information to gain access to the MSP system or other information contained within the MSP system, could possibly be in violation of the law.

    I'm not here to argue, only to warn. So, "buyer beware", "use at your own risk", "closed course--don't try this at home", etc.
     

    ReticulateLemur

    Active Member
    Oct 29, 2012
    158
    Perhaps then I should be glad that it doesn't bring up any of my information when I punch my name and DOB in. I tried it last night after it came up but didn't want to bother since I don't have fingerprints. Now I'm thinking that I'll definitely wait a while.

    Can't wait to see how this plays out in a few hours.
     

    niftyvt

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 21, 2010
    1,891
    Virginia
    Wow, that's insane. Now I wish I didn't fill out the HQL app first thing this morning.

    X1000! I didnt finish it but I registered so once I get my prints done I can fill it out ASAP. . . what a mess. I am not sure what I was expecting . . . maybe competence . . .at least a little bit. . . :sad20:
     

    Bob Lee $wagger

    Roll Tide
    Jan 5, 2013
    109
    Orange Beach, Alabama
    I like so many others here am going to wait for the courts to decide if I even need Marylandstan's bullschit license. Here's to an injunction.

    ________________________________________
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    NRA Lifetime
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    Utah CCW : good in 30+ states but not in the People's Republic of Marylandstan : Martin OweMalley Supreme Dicktator "What's in your wallet?"
     

    LeadSled1

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 25, 2009
    4,283
    MD
    Exactly what was wanted. Nobody applies for the license as it puts your PII out on the internet. (hell no, I am not doing it) The number of new firearms purchased drops drastically.
     

    miben

    Active Member
    Sep 29, 2007
    444
    NC formerly Eldersburg MD
    Folks, be VERY, VERY careful trying to access a government site using "hacking" tactics or methods. I would advise NOT testing the site. You may be violating Federal laws.

    I would never enter my personal info on a web site unless I had good reason to think it is secure. I certainly do not think this would be secure. This is one of the worst implementations for registration I have ever seen other than a phishing site.

    On one hand it looks like they are trying to eliminate re-keying some data but their approach is all wrong.
     

    MigraineMan

    Defenestration Specialist
    Jun 9, 2011
    19,412
    Frederick County
    Me: Look, all I want is a Handgun Qualification License. I'm supposed to be able to apply for one today.
    MSP: Yeah, about that. We're kinda busy.
    Me: The law *requires* you to do this.
    MSP: Please don't lecture me on the law. If you pesky gun owners hadn't gone on a buying binge for the last year, we wouldn't be in this situation, now would we?
    Me: This is about a handgun ... fundamental protection in the home ... the most basic exercise of the Second Amendment. It's not like I'm asking for a machine gun.
    MSP: Machine gun? Oh I can let you have a permit for one of those.
    Me: Really? That'd come in handy for our Saturday night bonfires.
    MSP: Here. Take the standard Form S-1978 and scratch out "Application for Outdoor Music Festival Permit" and write in "machine gun."
    Me: Oh. Okay. Can I pay for that with cash?
    MSP: Yes. We definitely like cash.
     

    ShallNotInfringe

    Lil Firecracker
    Feb 17, 2013
    8,554
    What is PII besides 3.14?

    Govt definition:

    Personally Identifiable Information (PII). The term “PII,” as defined in OMB Memorandum M-07-1616 refers to information that can be used to distinguish or trace an individual’s identity, either alone or when combined with other personal or identifying information that is linked or linkable to a specific individual. The definition of PII is not anchored to any single category of information or technology. Rather, it requires a case-by-case assessment of the specific risk that an individual can be identified. In performing this assessment, it is important for an agency to recognize that non-PII can become PII whenever additional information is made publicly available — in any medium and from any source — that, when combined with other available information, could be used to identify an individual
     

    pbharvey

    Habitual Testifier
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 27, 2012
    30,257
    I'm still upset over discovering I'm older than Hermann Munster.
     

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