Victory in MSI HQL suit

[esqappellate]

Problem is most states in pro-2A circuits aren't likely to pass the sorts of gun control laws that would be found in unconstitutional in those circuits. Unless somewhere like TX or TN decides to "Take one for the team" by intentionally passing something extreme they want overturned. But that's not going to happen.

doesn't need to be a big conflict, merely important. We are likely get one between the 4th, 9th, 3d, 7th and 2d Circuits to some extent. Rahimi may add some clarification

 

[Allen65]

doesn't need to be a big conflict, merely important. We are likely get one between the 4th, 9th, 3d, 7th and 2d Circuits to some extent. Rahimi may add some clarification

You might want to share some of that optimism on the MSI Discord channel. That place was a black hole of it's-the-end-of-the-line-for-2A-in-4CA doom and gloom last night.

 

[esqappellate]

You might want to share some of that optimism on the MSI Discord channel. That place was a black hole of it's-the-end-of-the-line-for-2A-in-4CA doom and gloom last night.

Oh, I am not optimistic. En banc in these three cases (Price, HQL and Bianchi) is bad. The 4th Circuit is a hostile court to 2A rights, no doubt. The question is rather how bad and whether the SCT will act in these cases, or similar cases. On those questions, only time will tell.

 

[Allen65]

Oh, I am not optimistic. En banc in these three cases (Price, HQL and Bianchi) is bad. The 4th Circuit is a hostile court to 2A rights, no doubt. The question is rather how bad and whether the SCT will act in these cases, or similar cases. On those questions, only time will tell.

I'm optimistic that SCOTUS will eventually take on this issue set, even if it's with a different case. There is much more than 2A at risk: it's SCOTUS' writ in general and ultimately rule of law if lower courts can overtly conduct process lawfare as a means of defying superior courts on major issues.

That's institutional structural rot that will spread further if not checked. It's bad enough similar processes have been happening in Congress and the Executive Branch over the past decade, now we're at risk of losing the remaining branch of government that is the one that's supposed to be all about adherence to rules, process, and procedure as its core mission.

 

[Abacab]

Once again Gunpolicy celebrating their epic wins knowing full well they're going to get embarrassed in en banc hearing. They never talk about how badly they lose at the "full circuit" level.

 

[RFBfromDE]

I'm optimistic that SCOTUS will eventually take on this issue set, even if it's with a different case. There is much more than 2A at risk: it's SCOTUS' writ in general and ultimately rule of law if lower courts can overtly conduct process lawfare as a means of defying superior courts on major issues.

That's institutional structural rot that will spread further if not checked. It's bad enough similar processes have been happening in Congress and the Executive Branch over the past decade, now we're at risk of losing the remaining branch of government that is the one that's supposed to be all about adherence to rules, process, and procedure as its core mission.

If/when that happens, pitchforks, torches, tar, feathers and rails will be all that remain.

And it will be glorious!

 

[Sam Salvati]

Can I buy a handgun without hql yet?

 

[Mark75H]

Can I buy a handgun without hql yet?

You can as long as it is 50 years old (1974)

 

[RFBfromDE]

Can I buy a handgun without hql yet?

No, we are not there yet. You’ll just have to hold it. I told you to pee before we left the house!

 

[Steel Hunter]

No, we are not there yet. You’ll just have to hold it. I told you to pee before we left the house!

Going to need to hold it for 1-3 more years probably.

 

[pcfixer]

I'll surely need depends.....

 

[Apd09]

I'll surely need depends.....

I may or may not have brought these to concerts for when you’re in general admission but don’t want to lose you spot.

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[noddaz]

Is tomorrow the big day?

Oral arguments tentatively schedule for March 19. Decision at some point when they get around to it after that (plus two weeks).

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca4.164615/gov.uscourts.ca4.164615.67.0.pdf

 

[308Scout]

Is tomorrow the big day?

Currently March 21 for the HQL case.

 

[noddaz]

Currently March 21 for the HQL case.

Thank you.

 

[coinboy]

Anyone have the link to listen later today?

 

[Deep Lurker]

Anyone have the link to listen later today?

This appears to be it, begins at 9AM:



(The original link to the livestream for this oral argument, as listed on the published docket, is broken, so this appears to be the current link.)

 

[motorcoachdoug]

I am here waiting as well. I bet 4 box dinner aka Mark Smith is also here waiting as well again after yesterday total sh** show put on by 4CA grasping at just straws to keep from following instructions from SCOTUS

 

[Squaregrouper]

This appears to be it, begins at 9AM:



(The original link to the livestream for this oral argument, as listed on the published docket, is broken, so this appears to be the current link.)

I think I'll listen in while loading some .38 Special.

 

[Occam]

They haven't started yet and I'm already pissed.