What IS the definition of "assault weapon", officially?

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    MattFinals718

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    Obviously this thread has been around for a while but this is the first time Ive seen it and I obviously have not read every comment. But I'll offer my perspective anyway. I dont really see what difference it makes where the term " assault weapon " came from. Its how its used that is the issue. Its a term with no real definition that the media and the anti 2a crowd have hijacked in an effort to make it mean whatever they want it to mean to meet their objective. Its not uncommon to highjack a word or phrase and if its used enough in that way than people just start associating with that automatically. God, for instance, created rainbows with beauty for all to enjoy. We all know what rainbows have come to mean in recent years. So, be it intellectually correct or not to say the anti 2a crowd coined that particular phrase, they definitely hijacked it and use there own self serving definitions to instill fear of a common object in an effort to gain support for their inevitable goal.

    Not a good idea. You don't need to read every comment, but you need to read enough of the thread to realize that origin of the "assault weapon" definition is only a small piece of what we're debating in here.
     

    Boats

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    Once again, you demonstrate that you excel at psychological projection.

    Ad hominem fallacy
    Oh, and by the way: No, you didn't, except in your own mind.
    Gaslighting.

    Well, it proves that you are an intellectually dishonest and self-deluded person who feels the need to lie to himself and others, yes. If you were a self-reflective person (which you're not), you'd realize the harm that you're really causing to us, and undermining the legitimate points that we can and should make to fight against AWBs.
    Ad hominem fallacy, bandwagon fallacy, tu quoque fallacy, no true scotsman fallacy
    Alas, I acknowledge that true believer types like yourself are too common in this community.
    Bandwagon fallacy, no true scotsman fallacy
    No, I'm afraid that they're discernible facts.
    Anecdotal fallacy
    And by the way, you speak about opinions as if they're entirely subjective and not based on facts?
    Special pleading fallacy
    Are you also one of those people who thinks that gender identity is a social construct? Because you're demonstrating just about the same intellectual abilities as the people on the left who would make such claims.
    Tu quoque fallacy, strawman fallacy, special pleading fallacy, ad hominem fallacy
    Nope, it's the opposite, actually.
    Black or white fallacy
    Nope, the pushback that I have received (the vast majority of which is from one person - you) is that in order to make the argument I've made, we have to admit that some of our long-standing arguments that we've trotted out in these debates are incorrect. Your problem is that you're a true believer type. You'd much rather continue to pretend that the guns we're defending are "sporting weapons" because you're afraid that implying they are functionality very similar (i.e., almost indistinguishable) to military weapons will make it easy for the antis to argue that they should be banned. Unfortunately, you're demonstrating cowardice, and really, you're trying to silence me because you are a coward and you are afraid.
    Ad hominem fallacy, burden of proof fallacy
    It's not a question of "more protected" (bad phrasing); but rather, what was the intention of the 2A. Weapons don't become "less" protected simply because we're acknowledging that the 2A would seem to discredit the antis' belief that only "sporting" weapons are GTG.
    Special pleading fallacy.


    This is why you've gotten push back from me. You have yet to make a compelling argument without resorting to logical fallacy.

    Basically, you stink at arguing, as evidenced above. It is the only thing you have convinced me of.
     

    MattFinals718

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    Nov 23, 2022
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    Wow, congrats, you've demonstrated that you know how to Google the syllabus of a Logic 101 course. How ironic that you've also exhibited nearly all of the same fallacies that you've accused me of employing.

    Anyway, at this point, I'm done with this shit. Welcome to my Ignore list.
     

    smokey

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    It's April 27, 2024 and "Assault weapon" is still a purposely nebulous and "scary sounding" term used by antigunners for the purpose of banning any gun they can get away with banning. It still has no definition, by design, and can include anything an antigun politician wants it to include.
     

    outrider58

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    It's April 27, 2024 and "Assault weapon" is still a purposely nebulous and "scary sounding" term used by antigunners for the purpose of banning any gun they can get away with banning. It still has no definition, by design, and can include anything an antigun politician wants it to include.
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    Boats

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    Wow, congrats, you've demonstrated that you know how to Google the syllabus of a Logic 101 course. How ironic that you've also exhibited nearly all of the same fallacies that you've accused me of employing.

    Anyway, at this point, I'm done with this shit. Welcome to my Ignore list.

    Don't threaten me with a good time. #triggered
     

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    FrankZ

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    Ad hominem fallacy

    Gaslighting.


    Ad hominem fallacy, bandwagon fallacy, tu quoque fallacy, no true scotsman fallacy

    Bandwagon fallacy, no true scotsman fallacy

    Anecdotal fallacy

    Special pleading fallacy

    Tu quoque fallacy, strawman fallacy, special pleading fallacy, ad hominem fallacy

    Black or white fallacy

    Ad hominem fallacy, burden of proof fallacy

    Special pleading fallacy.


    This is why you've gotten push back from me. You have yet to make a compelling argument without resorting to logical fallacy.

    Basically, you stink at arguing, as evidenced above. It is the only thing you have convinced me of.
    Bravo, well done. Hat tip and all that.
     

    outrider58

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