York PA gun show March 2nd, 3rd 2024

[FFBWMD]

I bought a gun from B'More Tactical at the York show about a year ago. I paid at the show and took the regular capacity magazine home with me. The following week I went to their store and started the paperwork, a week later I returned to their store and picked up my purchase.

This is how it works.....

 

[Bertfish]

Ok, I am going to put this out there, YOU ARE NOT AN FFL and you ABSOLUTELY do not know what you are talking about. As an out of state dealer you cannot transfer modern firearms at the show to another dealer during the show. You may transfer them ahead of the show to a Licensed PA FFL for the show. I'll be happy to explain any of it to you at the show, come see me! As stated in my above post, starting the paerwork for a handgun while out of state could be construed as acting outside of the scope of your FFL license and I for one will not do it.

That's beyond fvcking stupid

Not your doing obviously. Damned senseless rules.

 

[FFBWMD]

That's beyond fvcking stupid

Not your doing obviously. Damned senseless rules.

Yeah, kinda silly I have a "Federal firearm's license" that I can use to buy something in any State, but can only sell in MD where I'm licensed....

 

[Bertfish]

Yeah, kinda silly I have a "Federal firearm's license" that I can use to buy something in any State, but can only sell in MD where I'm licensed....

Does it explicitly say you can't start the transfer out of state or as you say are you just unwilling to risk it because the language is ambiguous?

 

[Squaregrouper]

I bought a gun from B'More Tactical at the York show about a year ago. I paid at the show and took the regular capacity magazine home with me. The following week I went to their store and started the paperwork, a week later I returned to their store and picked up my purchase.

This is how it works.....

Interesting. I knew the FFL couldn't submit the paperwork from out of state, but thought the 4473 and 77r could be started out of state, with the caveat the FFL couldn't submit the 77r until back in state. My understanding was, as I'll explain below..
I see a Hi Point .40 at a MD dealer's table at the York show on Saturday and decide I want it. I already have my 77r and PIN ready to go. I fill out the 4473 at the show and give my 77r info to the MD FFL. Once the show is over and the FFL is back home/shop, he does the 77r submission and my 7 day wait starts at that point. I did not know three steps were required: pay at gun show, fill out paperwork at MD shop, return to MD shop after 7 days with the not disapproved status.

 

[Art3]

Interesting. I knew the FFL couldn't submit the paperwork from out of state, but thought the 4473 and 77r could be started out of state, with the caveat the FFL couldn't submit the 77r until back in state. My understanding was, as I'll explain below..
I see a Hi Point .40 at a MD dealer's table at the York show on Saturday and decide I want it. I already have my 77r and PIN ready to go. I fill out the 4473 at the show and give my 77r info to the MD FFL. Once the show is over and the FFL is back home/shop, he does the 77r submission and my 7 day wait starts at that point. I did not know three steps were required: pay at gun show, fill out paperwork at MD shop, return to MD shop after 7 days with the not disapproved status.

I suspect it all hinges on where you are when you pay the $10 fee to MSP.

 

[Docster]

Great and also does anyone know if the bunker gun shop goes to the York shows. They tend to have good used deals

Why don't you just call them? Get facts direct from horse's mouth

 

[MiddleRiverShootist]

I have a S&W 639 I'll be taking up there to sell for something else this weekend.

 

[FFBWMD]

Does it explicitly say you can't start the transfer out of state or as you say are you just unwilling to risk it because the language is ambiguous?

No it does not that I am aware of, however the way the Government is trying to slam dealers right now I am not taking any chances.

 

[FFBWMD]

Interesting. I knew the FFL couldn't submit the paperwork from out of state, but thought the 4473 and 77r could be started out of state, with the caveat the FFL couldn't submit the 77r until back in state. My understanding was, as I'll explain below..
I see a Hi Point .40 at a MD dealer's table at the York show on Saturday and decide I want it. I already have my 77r and PIN ready to go. I fill out the 4473 at the show and give my 77r info to the MD FFL. Once the show is over and the FFL is back home/shop, he does the 77r submission and my 7 day wait starts at that point. I did not know three steps were required: pay at gun show, fill out paperwork at MD shop, return to MD shop after 7 days with the not disapproved status.

You cannot submit a 77r application to the MSP unless the customer is standing in front of, this I know for sure. It sucks as it means the customer has to make 2 trips to the dealers store in the process, but I guess if it's something you really want you'll have to do what is needed.

 

[Squaregrouper]

You cannot submit a 77r application to the MSP unless the customer is standing in front of, this I know for sure. It sucks as it means the customer has to make 2 trips to the dealers store in the process, but I guess if it's something you really want you'll have to do what is needed.

Bold and underlined comments by me clarified I was unaware of this; not that I thought you were wrong.

 

[FFBWMD]

Bold and underlined comments by me clarified I was unaware of this; not that I thought you were wrong.

No worries, was just being informative

 

[357Max]

If anyone puts eyes on std cap mags for full size FN509T at the show Sat. please let me know.

 

[Sundazes]

Anyone up there? How crowded is it?

 

[John from MD]

Haloooo up there.

 

[Art3]

It was crowded...maybe the rain was a factor. Lots of vendors, and mostly gun stuff I bought some ammo, boxes, and accessories. There were indeed guns of all flavors to be had, but that was not in my budget this trip.

Prices...well...I thought they were a little high overall, but compared to what? Prices on everything are high these days. The last several gun shows I've been to have seemed high(er than what I'd like). At some point high prices become the market

I'm definitely glad I went.

There was a lot of this "New Republic" ammo around. Anybody know anything about it?

 

[38super]

Went today very crowded. Seen powder and primers, found some Gen 1 Armalite magazines that I have been looking for. M1 Carbine GI 15 round magazines a private seller had some for 20.00 each which is a good price now a days. South Carroll had some estate ammo they were selling very good prices I do not think the ammo lasted till lunch time. I thought it was a good show I guess it depends if you find what your looking for. There was a plently of stuff to see.

 

[Bisleyfan44]

There was a lot of this "New Republic" ammo around. Anybody know anything about it?

Target Sports USA house brand. Don't know who makes it for them???

Affordable, semi-decent. Have shot some 45acp and 38 sp. It was OK target ammo.

 

[Art3]

If anybody stops by the MMI ammo table and sees low-ish priced .38sp, ask them what the deal is with the discolored cases and severe crimp is

 

[ohen cepel]

May want to check the coal on those 38rds. They look a bit short.