House Gun Bill Day - 3/4

[T'Challa]

My two, unsolicited cents worth on the testimonies....

I did not see all the testimonies, but I thought Mike's open carry video was pretty good except he did not get shot or put face down on the ground as it may happen in real life. I thought other testimonies were pretty good. I especially like the testimonies against the gps tracking. However, at the end of the day it looked like the same 'ol same 'ol. I doubt any gun bill gets out of committee.... not even the police carrying on school property is going to get out imho. Retired cops and active cops have LEOSA and that did not grant them school carry, I don't see why MD would. Not gun bill will get out of committee because the bill could paint an elected Dem in a negative light and cost votes. Conway was interesting but not nervous. His constituency sees guns as an evil. His communities only see cops and crooks with guns. Any bill to arm active police or keep guns from regular people will get Dem support.

I think that chasing down carrying while bow hunting and other trivial carry cases are pointless. The pro gun voice is not going to convince the dye in the wool liberal democrats of the state. Shootings in the media (which are never going away) doesn't help. Until SCOTUS make it the law of the land or these politicians receive serious competition at the polls, you can hang it up. Not going to happen. We are near Virginia but no where near their gun rights.

 

[Raineman]

FWPhoto.

I had no idea.

Hey FW...you did great! Nice to have met you.


Jim

 

[mxrider]

While it meant that Chili's food could not be delivered, I was glad to be able to get down for testimony. Was well worth the changeover to pizza! (thanks sni)

 

[MJD438]

Once the dust settles, will the written testimony be available on the MD web site? It sure would be nice to see what was submitted by the anti's.

As for the crazy lady, in the future we need to have several folks available on deck so if she pulls this again, they simply walk up to the table after she's seated and defer to her first so she doesn't have the last say.

Glad to have met several of you and while I'd rather not spend a lot more time in Annapolis, look forward to the next round. It will be interesting to see how many of the bills will be reported out of this committie.

I will scan and post the information received in opposition from the MSP later today.

For reference about the way things are supposed to work:

• MDGA does not post all of the written testimony received.
• During session, interested parties may visit the capital complex, go to the committee that heard the bill in question, and request a copy of the "bill folder". That folder is supposed to contain everything about the bill (Bill, Fiscal Note, Committee Votes, Written Testimony).

If you are interested in a particular bill, feel free to reach out to Delegate Smigiel's office (delegatemikesmigiel@gmail.com or +1 (410) 841-3555). Assuming that the bill is not huge, the office can fax the documents to you. If the bill is large, the office can still make a copy, but arrangements would need to be made on how to get there.

 

[Gbh]

for those of you who missed the cat lady scratching out a bunch of nonsense, or for those who just want to relive the moment SNI pounced to the table to rebut, here's a condensed highlight up to where they cut the feed.

 

[dgapilot]

I will scan and post the information received in opposition from the MSP later today.

For reference about the way things are supposed to work:

• MDGA does not post all of the written testimony received.
• During session, interested parties may visit the capital complex, go to the committee that heard the bill in question, and request a copy of the "bill folder". That folder is supposed to contain everything about the bill (Bill, Fiscal Note, Committee Votes, Written Testimony).

If you are interested in a particular bill, feel free to reach out to Delegate Smigiel's office (delegatemikesmigiel@gmail.com or +1 (410) 841-3555). Assuming that the bill is not huge, the office can fax the documents to you. If the bill is large, the office can still make a copy, but arrangements would need to be made on how to get there.

Thanks

 

[vinjet700]

caught a few hours last nite online and wanted to thank all that attended and testified...

 

[iH8DemLibz]

Anyone else sorry they didn't follow the advice of that bat sh!t crazy beeeaatch.

She was SNIffed out last year and for good reason.

 

[iH8DemLibz]

caught a few hours last nite online and wanted to thank all that attended and testified...

I may have passed 6 cars on the way home at 1am.

Thanks again to the kind gentleman with the jeep who gave three of us a ride to the stadium. That walk would have sucked.

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

HB42 was heard yesterday with the other 29 bills.

Hmmmm.... Kinda like telling your opponents to make sure they vote on WEDNESDAY???

 

[CrazySanMan]

That woman is out there. Too much Art Bell and Alex Jones.

 

[CrazySanMan]

I may have passed 6 cars on the way home at 1am.

Thanks again to the kind gentleman with the jeep who gave three of us a ride to the stadium. That walk would have sucked.

Yes, thank you. Multifaceted, correct?

 

[smokey]

My two, unsolicited cents worth on the testimonies....

I did not see all the testimonies, but I thought Mike's open carry video was pretty good except he did not get shot or put face down on the ground as it may happen in real life. I thought other testimonies were pretty good. I especially like the testimonies against the gps tracking. However, at the end of the day it looked like the same 'ol same 'ol. I doubt any gun bill gets out of committee.... not even the police carrying on school property is going to get out imho. Retired cops and active cops have LEOSA and that did not grant them school carry, I don't see why MD would. Not gun bill will get out of committee because the bill could paint an elected Dem in a negative light and cost votes. Conway was interesting but not nervous. His constituency sees guns as an evil. His communities only see cops and crooks with guns. Any bill to arm active police or keep guns from regular people will get Dem support.

I think that chasing down carrying while bow hunting and other trivial carry cases are pointless. The pro gun voice is not going to convince the dye in the wool liberal democrats of the state. Shootings in the media (which are never going away) doesn't help. Until SCOTUS make it the law of the land or these politicians receive serious competition at the polls, you can hang it up. Not going to happen. We are near Virginia but no where near their gun rights.

yeah, those uppity folks back in the civil rights movement shouldn't have kept trying either. Afterall, they were in the minority...how could they ever think they'd be successful?

The testimonies are one small part of this in the bigger overall PR campaign. Outreach to those minority communities that view guns as evil is just as important.

 

[MJD438]

MSP Testimony Submission

Here is the testimony that MSP delivered yesterday.

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

Thank you very much mjd!

Although it is a steaming pile...

but this is curious...

Last entry, 818.

"Although the backlog should be completed by the end of March, the Department of State Police is processing applications for regulated firearms purchases after October 1, 2013 in under seven days. This is due in part because of the requirements within the Firearm Safety Act of 2013"

There is NOTHING in FSA 2013 imposing a time limit requirement on 77R processing! Hell, they didn't even touch any of the statutes that talk about the 7 day disapproval period.

 

[iH8DemLibz]

Yes, thank you. Multifaceted, correct?

Yes.

 

[thomfantomas]

Here is the testimony that MSP delivered yesterday.

well f* them for their unfavorable vote

 

[Multifaceted]

Yes, thank you. Multifaceted, correct?

No, but I was one that caught a ride with you both from the same guy... unfortunately his name escapes me. It was late and my mind was weary.

 

[dgapilot]

Thanks MJD!

 

[dblas]

So do we have an idea when the committee will issue their favorable or unfavorable reports on these bills?

No clue on if/when they will vote on any of these.