Decision in Kolbe!

[sbmike]

Still a ton of guests here.

Reading some of what King wrote, it's pretty apparent that he made his decisions based on his personal opinion about guns and not on the law. Shameful.

The sad and dangerous part of your statement is that more and more judges and even justices are injecting personal and political feelings into their deliberations instead of straight up interpreting the constitution or existing laws and regulations. After Woolard, I'm not holding my breath but will be extremely pleased and surprised as I was today if we continue to win as this goes forward. I can only hope.

 

[dlmarion]

I thought I saw some language in my first scan that might be applied to other aspects of FSA13, but it seems not to have borne out on a [more] thorough read.

There are a lot of good statements in there. If this does not affect other parts of the FSA I am sure this document could be put to good use.

 

[INMY01TA]

I thought if a law was struck down as unconstitutional the WHOLE law fell with it?

 

[Vile Shadow]

I thought if a law was struck down as unconstitutional the WHOLE law fell with it?

Seems to me it would if there ain't no severability clause.

 

[teratos]

I thought if a law was struck down as unconstitutional the WHOLE law fell with it?

No. This suit only involves the AWB and magazine cap.

 

[thomfantomas]

i want to donate a few bucks to help fund our 2nd amendment rights right now

with whom should i send besides the NRA that relevant to this NOW

by any means necessary!

 

[Mr H]

i want to donate a few bucks to help fund our 2nd amendment rights right now

with whom should i send besides the NRA that relevant to this NOW

by any means necessary!

MSI, AGC, MSRPA, MLFDA, NRA-ILA

Just be sure to note "Maryland Litigation" on the check

 

[thomfantomas]

MSI, MSRPA, MLFDA, NRA-ILA

Just be sure to note "Maryland Litigation" on the check

i won't do multiples recommend me one and thanks

 

[Yoshi]

Yeah, hurry the hell up. I hear an FAL callin' me.

This!

 

[danb]

If I were Frosh, that is what I would do too. Going for en banc is a no lose proposition for him. And he knows that he can't meet the strict scrutiny test. But he has a real problem. A "conflict" with other circuits over the standard is not the same thing as a conflict over the result. Theoretically he could win on remand. He can make all the same arguments in a second en banc petition if he loses after remand. Second, the panel majority is dead right that circuit precedent (Chester) requires strict scrutiny for "in the home" restrictions. So the panel is on sound ground there. So the split in the circuits on the standard is the pre existing split, not created by this decision. So that leaves SCT review and that's a long shot for him on a petition from interlocutory decision that merely ordered a remand. The SCT would rather rule on the basis of the full record created after remand, at least that is what I would argue in opposing cert. And yes, I would oppose cert., even though others would rather have a SCT decision on this now. Better to prove your case under strict scrutiny and then let *that* case go to the SCT after Frosh loses on remand.

Which is why if they think this through and present a unified front, you will start to see support to repeal some provisions crop up in the legislature, to moot the case.

 

[Jaybeez]

i want to donate a few bucks to help fund our 2nd amendment rights right now

with whom should i send besides the NRA that relevant to this NOW

by any means necessary!

https://www.marylandshallissue.org/jmain/join

under hql lawsuit at the bottom

 

[JettaRed]

Still a ton of guests here.

Reading some of what King wrote, it's pretty apparent that he made his decisions based on his personal opinion about guns and not on the law. Shameful.

Roger that! How disappointing and sad (about King).

 

[Mr H]

80 members, 70 guests

I wonder what they're expecting to read??

Sorry folks... no pitchforks and torches.

 

[mrgnstrn]

Roger that! How disappointing and sad (about King).

It's even sadder than that. He had a whole year to come up with his best argument, and the best he could do was "guns are yucky, look at this bloody shirt"

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

 

[GTOGUNNER]

Which is why if they think this through and present a unified front, you will start to see support to repeal some provisions crop up in the legislature, to moot the case.

Nope. They are being told the court is wrong and the law is constitutional.
If, with all the testimony of 2013 they still passed it, no way in hell they will declare they were wrong. That's what is going to make them lose.

 

[fightinbluhen51]

Or how 'bout Jack McCauley? Joe Vallario? Kathleen Dumais? A computer chess playing d-bag?

Anyone in the MGA, especially who were strongarmed or "whip"ed.

How 'bout deposing the Representatives that voted against it so they can tell the truth about a broken MGA?

How 'bout Pugh? How 'bout Miller and Busch?

How 'bout the ones who traded $1 billion for Baltimore City schools broken up over the following consecutive 10 years (which seems to never be exposed to the public and that has been spent so well and I am guessing wasn't enough because now they want more)

EVERY "representative" in the MGA that voted yea for it should be deposed. Period.

Maybe I'm off, I don't understand all this legal stuff.

But I do know one thing, as someone posted earlier,...we can ALWAYS tell frosh to "suck it", regardless.

Yeah, you could go that far.

Great point. Find out under oath how some were bribed for their votes.

That's better than a John Doe Grand Jurry, and the US District Court will be the arbiter. I'm sure the FBI would be VERY interested in those depositions. (Though Hillary is a bit of a priority these days).

Oh, crap...

Someone needed a pic of our Best Girl, Erin Sharkey Gormley Badgerhead Buttkisser Frosh...

Luvya Beb (call me)

Thank you! I requested this earlier today and have been fulfilled today.

She's probably out driving drunk.

Ouch. Truth hurts.

Which is why if they think this through and present a unified front, you will start to see support to repeal some provisions crop up in the legislature, to moot the case.

F'em. Roll the dice, we are playing with house money at this point.

 

[thomfantomas]

https://www.marylandshallissue.org/jmain/join

under hql lawsuit at the bottom

cool donation sent

 

[ComeGet]

80 members, 70 guests

I wonder what they're expecting to read??

Sorry folks... no pitchforks and torches.

More like confetti and champagne.

 

[RonK]

80 members, 70 guests

I wonder what they're expecting to read??

Sorry folks... no pitchforks and torches.

Views and opinions on MD 2A Issues?

Got home m'self a couple hours ago, and this made for an interesting read post dinner. Not everyone gets to keep up to date on the issues during work (or 'for work' as may be the case for some of our advocates).

 

[Engine4]

I don't know if it's the cynical old fart in me or just experience in dealing with democRATs & libs, but I still don't feel good about this. I guess it's because of what's happened in the country the past 8 years, how so many things have gone against reason, logic, legality & plain common sense. I hope I'm wrong.