A hitch in my QHIC plan

[Hibs]

I wouldn't think the NRA Instructor status is required though in MSPs eyes

You have to pay your $60 to NRA before they'll let you login and print your instructor cert. You don't get the instructor cert at the class.

 

[Bertfish]

You have to pay your $60 to NRA before they'll let you login and print your instructor cert. You don't get the instructor cert at the class.

Lol of course. But if MSP cares about the coursework then wouldn't proof of that suffice?

 

[miles71]

My prefered class is 9 students, 2 instructors and a RSO doing overwatch

Agreed, I can do up to 16 but that’s with 3 instructors and only running 8 at a time on the range. I like 8-12 as an almost perfect size class.

TD

 

[Hibs]

Lol of course. But if MSP cares about the coursework then wouldn't proof of that suffice?

There is no proof that you are an NRA pistol instructor, minus the cert that you get, after paying your NRA instructor fee... lol... no way around it.

What other proof of coursework do you think you're going to get?

 

[Bertfish]

There is no proof that you are an NRA pistol instructor, minus the cert that you get, after paying your NRA instructor fee... lol... no way around it.

What other proof of coursework do you think you're going to get?

Some kind of certificate or something from the class. Guess Wayne needs a new 3 piece again

 

[Hibs]

Some kind of certificate or something from the class. Guess Wayne needs a new 3 piece again

Can't say exactly how yours will go, but I got absolutely nothing from my class. You show up, do the training, sign some forms. At the end as long as you pass the test they just wave goodbye. You'll get an email within the next day or two explaining how to sign up as an NRA instructor.

 

[4g64loser]

Larry Quandahl did the old PPOTH I believe. He left NRA, and they make some other cuts to their staff, not sure who they had do CCW.

Don't know who did the original but I believe some of the improvements and modularity was Christian Vara. He's not with NRA anymore either. Still a TC and a very good one. He does instructor development a lot. Would recommend him.

 

[Mark75H]

Can't say exactly how yours will go, but I got absolutely nothing from my class. You show up, do the training, sign some forms. At the end as long as you pass the test they just wave goodbye. You'll get an email within the next day or two explaining how to sign up as an NRA instructor.

I don't think I've ever attended a class where I got nothing from the class. Sometimes I learn what NOT to do.

I often learn things when I GIVE classes.

 

[Hibs]

I don't think I've ever attended a class where I got nothing from the class. Sometimes I learn what NOT to do.

I often learn things when I GIVE classes.

I made that comment in reference to Bertfish's mention of a certificate.

I got nothing (no certificate / no course completion verification) after finishing the class. He made it sound like he wanted to find a way to apply for the QHIC from MSP without having to pay the $60 to NRA to get the cert.

 

[Blaster229]

Guess I might as well go get mine now.

 

[Bertfish]

Guess I might as well go get mine now.

I agree. If I make it through this weekend I'll be more qualified than you are.

 

[Blaster229]

I agree. If I make it through this weekend I'll be more qualified than you are.

Well, you'll get a NRA patch. lol

 

[Bertfish]

Well, you'll get a NRA patch. lol

Exactly. That's practically a LEO badge in some shops

 

[Blaster229]

Exactly. That's practically a LEO badge in some shops

Can't wait to see it on your signature line.

 

[kenpo333]

i have a real problem that someone wants to get around this. Experience counts. So you want to teach wear and carry without any experience in even teaching the basic. Grow up and do what the rest of us did and teach some NRA classes for the year and get some experience. And while you're at it take some law classes so you can teach Federal, Maryland and self defense law.

 

[Hibs]

i have a real problem that someone wants to get around this. Experience counts. So you want to teach wear and carry without any experience in even teaching the basic. Grow up and do what the rest of us did and teach some NRA classes for the year and get some experience. And while you're at it take some law classes so you can teach Federal, Maryland and self defense law.

No one is trying to get around anything.

I see your opinion. And it's just that. An opinion.

Maryland does not require 1 year of experience to qualify for a QHIC. Don't like it? Lobby your representative.

 

[4g64loser]

Well, you'll get a NRA patch. lol

Hey I didn't get no patch when I did it!!!! Haha.

In all seriousness, they do not give you any certificate or anything. It's an instructor credentialing course. You don't get the credentials til you buy them from the NRA. Just the way they do it. I didn't get squat handed to me when I had to do a fed instructor qual course (I'm neither a fed nor le) to work on a job. Taking it meant I could apply to get the cert.

 

[Bertfish]

i have a real problem that someone wants to get around this. Experience counts. So you want to teach wear and carry without any experience in even teaching the basic. Grow up and do what the rest of us did and teach some NRA classes for the year and get some experience. And while you're at it take some law classes so you can teach Federal, Maryland and self defense law.

Hey no one said a goddamned thing about getting around anything

Use some reading comprehension. I didn't realize you had to pay another $60 to the NRA just to print the friggin cert out. I thought it came with the class.

 

[Bertfish]

I do love the gatekeeping BS I've gotten from some folks around here

GrOw uP aNd GeT eXpErIeNcE

Pretty sure I said somewhere in this thread that 1) this was to get me out of renewal training and make it convenient for my family to schedule their own renewal training and 2) if I decided to teach others at some point I'd partner with someone and learn first rather than just strike out

so for those who still think I'm some kind of know it all jack wagon let me restate again

IM NOT A COP. IVE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. IM TAKING THIS CLASS TO GET THE BASIC CERT. WHEN I WANT MORE SKILLS I WILL SEEK THE PROPER TRAINING FROM INDIVIDUALS MORE QUALIFIED THAN I AM.

 

[Bertfish]

Now I'm pissed. JFC why do we have to try and ruin things for one another. As if the only way to do something legitimately is the way others have done it. Anything else is inferior/dodging/whatever