AA County Plastic Bag Ban in 2024

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  • aray

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 6, 2010
    5,327
    MD -> KY
    I went to an AACO Walmart today and as expected all of the plastic bags were gone. You could buy paper bags for a dime each. The thing that got me was that they had the gall to post this sign:


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    ironpony

    Member
    MDS Supporter
    Jun 8, 2013
    7,302
    Davidsonville
    I'll probably just take a range bag or back pack in. From aray's sign I expect my grocery purchase to be lower ..... soon.
     

    Mr H

    Unincited Co-Conservative
    So how is this to be enforced at self checkout lines? Watching this fiasco at Walmart is gonna be fun.
    Noone behind the counters where we've been talking to people about this is looking forward to it.

    We'll be taking some durable PLASTIC bags with us when we shop, but I get the feeling people will be buying a lot less at a time.
     

    smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    31,569
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    F^ck Pittman. With my 6 month son, plastic bags were easy to grab a bunch on one arm, grab him with the other, and walk to the car/house. Now the cart comes with me to the car.(I know... first world problems, but Pittman and the council are still little tyrannical douches.
     

    aray

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 6, 2010
    5,327
    MD -> KY
    Some observations:

    * Paragraph (D)(1) exempts full/service restaurants, limited-service restaurants, fast food restaurants, etc. But according to my wife’s Nextdoor app, one person reported that they were charged a dime for a bag at an AACO Burger King at a drive through window. Clearly not all establishments know the law correctly, so be careful and watch your receipts.

    * (D)(4) allows the merchants to provide free reusable bags 22-30 April AND during 10 day promotional periods every month. If they don’t do that, you should ask the manager why not, as obviously paper bags cost << a dime in bulk wholesale.

    * Section 2 states that establishments may provide alternate non-plastic bags at no cost until 1 February. That is, they may charge this month, but are not required to do so by the County Crown.
     

    smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    31,569
    Some observations:

    * Paragraph (D)(1) exempts full/service restaurants, limited-service restaurants, fast food restaurants, etc. But according to my wife’s Nextdoor app, one person reported that they were charged a dime for a bag at an AACO Burger King at a drive through window. Clearly not all establishments know the law correctly, so be careful and watch your receipts.

    * (D)(4) allows the merchants to provide free reusable bags 22-30 April AND during 10 day promotional periods every month. If they don’t do that, you should ask the manager why not, as obviously paper bags cost << a dime in bulk wholesale.

    * Section 2 states that establishments may provide alternate non-plastic bags at no cost until 1 February. That is, they may charge this month, but are not required to do so by the County Crown.
    Is there a penalty if a private person sells plastic bags in the parking lot for $.05/each?
     

    Sirex

    Powered by natural gas
    Oct 30, 2010
    10,480
    Westminster, MD
    I was at the Weis store in Frederick yesterday, and I was waiting at the self check out for a manager. A lady came up and asked where the bags were. The attendant said they had no bags. None, paper or plastic. But they had the choice to buy reusable bags for $2-3 each. People were literally carrying stuff out by the arm full. Then someone asked for help at the service desk. He said someone would be over in a little bit, they were under staffed. Someone complained out of all the registers, only one had a cashier, and the self check out lines were building up. He apologized and said it was staffing again. Bags, employees, this is getting strange.

    Here in Westminster, our last POS mayor enacted a plastic bag ban a couple years ago. It sucks. We always re-used the plastic bags for cat litter disposal, dog waste, small trash cans, etc. Now, stores have (most of the time) paper bags, of various sizes. They all suck. They are weak, they rip, they get waterlogged when bringing groceries in from the rain, and aren't as easy to use. No one uses them for high school book covers anymore. They are bulky. And some places charge for the paper bags, like Safeway, and Rite Aid. Then if you have heavy stuff, and double bag, you get scolded. At our Walmart, the service sucks, you have to use self check out, then get hassled leaving the store by the receipt police.

    My car is always packed with tools, parts and equipment, so I never carry reusable bags. My wife has them flopping all over her SUV's trunk. Then, when we need to haul stuff, we take them out, and forget to put them back in, and have to use paper bags, which usually sit in our dining room for a week before recycling picks them up. Between the staffing issues, bagging issues, and poor customer service in general, since the whole Covid shutdown, the retail industry in general has sucked. But now I have to buy reusable bags, which when the straps tear off, take up even more room in the trash.

    I noticed also when online orders arrived last month, many items showed up in clear bags with a shipping label stuck on them, and some items had a shipping label stuck on the packaging box, with no outer brown box. Kinda made it easy for the kids to see what they were getting for Christmas if I didn't get home first.
     

    BurtonRW

    Ultimate Member
    Oct 19, 2007
    1,001
    Pasadena

    1,000 bags for $18.98, so less than two cents per bag, retail.
    I’m getting mine from ULINE. Slightly better quality (but still of the “single use” variety), they come in pretty colors, and at $55/case, are still much cheaper than the 0.10/bag being charged for the ******** single-ply, can’t carry easily paper ones.


    -Rob
     

    lawrencewendall

    Been There, Done That
    Oct 10, 2009
    1,748
    Someone posted who voted for this but I can't find it. Please re-post so we can can ridicule them publicly.
     

    Mr H

    Unincited Co-Conservative
    Giant and Trader Joe's are not charging for paper until 1Feb... so, double-bag to your heart's content ;)

    As we continue to talk to cashiers, none of them like this, and the consensus seems to be that the county has unnecessarily set the people back some 40 years.
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
    MDS Supporter
    May 12, 2005
    23,089
    Socialist State of Maryland
    Giant and Trader Joe's are not charging for paper until 1Feb... so, double-bag to your heart's content ;)

    As we continue to talk to cashiers, none of them like this, and the consensus seems to be that the county has unnecessarily set the people back some 40 years.
    But the Edgewater Giant is out of bags.:rant2:
     

    smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    31,569
    I'm considering installing a "dog clean up Station" using t-shirt bags next to our local grocery store at this point.
     

    BurtonRW

    Ultimate Member
    Oct 19, 2007
    1,001
    Pasadena
    I’ve been grocery shopping three or four times now, taking along a bunch of my single-use Amazon t-shirt bags. They only cost about $0.03/ea. by the case and it’s only slightly inconvenient not having them on the bag stand to fill, but it doesn’t take much to get used to.

    -Rob
     

    fredthe

    Active Member
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 18, 2023
    212
    Bowie, MD
    I'm annoyed that PG did the same, and I thought it was only AA. At the end of the year I recycled a ton of plastic bags, now I have none for scooping the cat litter and will need to buy some.

    From what I can tell, the end result is to enrich grocery stores, and cost consumers more.
     

    CrueChief

    Cocker Dad/RIP Bella
    Apr 3, 2009
    3,072
    Napolis-ish
    I used the bags to also recycle all the soft plastic and plastic wrap that for some reason the "recycle more often " people no longer wanted. So I fore see more of the soft plastics in either the regular recycle against their wishes or simply in the regular trash.
     

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