Are 223.Wylde barrels heavy or H-bar barrels for Maryland?

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  • 4g64loser

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    Jan 18, 2007
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    It started 25+ years ago when I saw for the first time a video camera at a bachelor party. It was the sign on the wall that people are their own worse enemy.
    That was an ironclad rule when we did cannonball runs to NOPI or Spring Nationals in the car scene. No cameras, no credit cards, and don't bring sand to the beach.
     

    lazarus

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    any idea how many have been busted or jailed for not having "heavy" barrels on their AR's? one would had to have been very, very, very, very bad for some state or fed LEO to pull your gun apart looking for any sort of hbar designation.
    Err, several. Or at least several people have been charged with having an assault weapon under FSA2013 when found with an AR-15 in the trunk of their vehicle. I suspect a non-heavy barrel AR-15. And too young to have owned it prior to 2013 in any state.

    I have no clue on convictions.

    Said people were usually doing something stupid to warrant a search of their vehicle. Like drag racing cops.
     

    normbal

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    Has this been mentioned yet?

    Does Maryland law specify actual dimensions for a “heavy” barrel, as in 0.750” or greater, specify exactly WHICH portion of the barrel is to be within that range, etc?


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    Biggfoot44

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    Has this been mentioned yet?

    Does Maryland law specify actual dimensions for a “heavy” barrel, as in 0.750” or greater, specify exactly WHICH portion of the barrel is to be within that range, etc?


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    Nope ! All that dimension stuff is meaningless .

    It must be stamped on the bbl by the mfg , or be advertised as Heavy by the Mfg .
     

    JohnnyE

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    Jan 18, 2013
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    Err, several. Or at least several people have been charged with having an assault weapon under FSA2013 when found with an AR-15 in the trunk of their vehicle. I suspect a non-heavy barrel AR-15. And too young to have owned it prior to 2013 in any state.

    I have no clue on convictions.

    Said people were usually doing something stupid to warrant a search of their vehicle. Like drag racing cops.
    I would be a shame to arrest a youngster with a non-heavy barrel AR-15 if he inherited it.
     

    Boats

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    Mar 13, 2012
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    Dang, fella, did you forget what forum you’re logged into? This is MDS, that’s ALL they do is “talk about Fight Club”, it’s hardwired into 98% of the forum members psyche!

    Half the thread titles in a nutshell;
    “Full auto 10/22, been like that for a year, should I take to gunsmith?”
    “CCW Instructor let us out of class an hour early, yay!”
    “Let’s say I (or a friend), accidentally killed somebody, how would you go about…”
    “Accidentally shortened my 870 barrel to 17”, how can I…?”
    “I have a tini-tiny problem with heroin, will that affect my carry permit application?”

    It’s like they exist solely to “Talk about Fight Club”

    Lol,. you're not wrong.
     

    lazarus

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    Jun 23, 2015
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    I would be a shame to arrest a youngster with a non-heavy barrel AR-15 if he inherited it.
    It absolutely would be. That should be pretty quick to squelch though. MSP does require you to register inheritances though. So either they have the record that the youngster inherited it, or they still violated the law by not registering it after inheriting it.

    That is NOT a statement that I support the law.

    If you are 31 or older with a non-HBAR (or anything else banned in FSA2013) and a MD resident, it is going to be tricky for police to figure out if you might be in legal possession. I would think and hope they would at least take an approach of "assume it is legal" rather than take the time, effort, and tax payer dollars (plus F-ing over a citizen) to investigate if it is possible the person is not in legal possession. A non-MD resident 28 or older happening to pass through the state, the same.

    If you happen to be <31 and MD resident since at least September 2013, I can see MSP/police spending the resources to figure out if you might be in legal possession. Is it registered to you (okay, okay, I know I mean was it transferred/filed with MSP on a 77r and that is not a formal registration database, just a record of transfers or a point in time)? If not, can you show you were recently willed the firearm and might not yet have filed a 77r?

    If a MD resident, I don't see anything in the law or MSP requirements about how long you have to register a willed firearm on a 77r. I am ass-uming that it would be the same time frame as someone moving in to the state.

    But no will with a recent death certificate, no 77r, and less than 31 years old (okay, to be specific 30 years, 2 months and some number of days at this point, or 27, 2 months and some number of days and moved into MD just prior to October of 2013) I can't think of a way you'd be in legal possession unless you can point to someone who would be the legal owner that you are borrowing it from.
     

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