Armed Business Owners

[Bujwah]

Any owners out there in Maryland that carry in there business? I'm in the liquor industry and planning on purchasing a new store in a rougher but up and coming area in DC.
Wanted to see what kind of arms you guys carry or recommend.

 

[welder516]

I mostly carry a .45 Glock 30s , but have been know to do a .38 S&W Air-Weight. but to be honest if i was doing a more dangerous location or job. I would double carry and extra mag. IMHO

 

[John from MD]

Any owners out there in Maryland that carry in there business? I'm in the liquor industry and planning on purchasing a new store in a rougher but up and coming area in DC.
Wanted to see what kind of arms you guys carry or recommend.

If I was behind a counter. I would have a concealed pistol on my person and a 12 gauge shotgun behind the counter but covered so someone jumping over the counter couldn't see it.

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

Ask Andy.

Seriously, good luck. I recollect the first time I stopped in Capitol Liquor. “Last stop in DC”. I was young and it made an impression. Lots of bulletproof glass and turnstiles.

Stay safe.

 

[welder516]

I would also add, that training and skillset will do you good, that job would have me a bit edgy i won't lie. I also wish you well in a time where taking other people's stuff is okay and celebrated.
Have good skills and extra eyes

 

[BradMacc82]

Just be aware of the pertinent DC laws regarding magazine capacity.

Being handicapped by mag capacity limits (while those with less than honorable intentions aren't) - whatever you decide to have on you, carry spare mags and practice reloads frequently.

 

[JohnnyE]

Be sure to employ good people as well.

One day a customer attempted to shake us down for product. Little did he know that the counterman he started the encounter with is a boxer, a nephew of mine and I on the sales floor had our concealed Glocks, and another nephew was behind the door to the back office holding a Remington 870. Had the bad guy gotted reckless, our biggest challenge may have been avoiding crossfire.

 

[MaxVO2]

Be sure to employ good people as well.

One day a customer attempted to shake us down for product. Little did he know that the counterman he started the encounter with is a boxer, a nephew of mine and I on the sales floor had our concealed Glocks, and another nephew was behind the door to the back office holding a Remington 870. Had the bad guy gotted reckless, our biggest challenge may have been avoiding crossfire.

*****Cleanup would have been a mess too if you had used a few rounds with the Remington 870 with some buckshot. Probably need a good mopping after using a snow shovel to pick up the pieces.

Crabs gotta eat too.

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

Ask Andy.

Seriously, good luck. I recollect the first time I stopped in Capitol Liquor. “Last stop in DC”. I was young and it made an impression. Lots of bulletproof glass and turnstiles.

Stay safe.

I would also add, that training and skillset will do you good, that job would have me a bit edgy i won't lie. I also wish you well in a time where taking other people's stuff is okay and celebrated.
Have good skills and extra eyes

Be sure to employ good people as well.

One day a customer attempted to shake us down for product. Little did he know that the counterman he started the encounter with is a boxer, a nephew of mine and I on the sales floor had our concealed Glocks, and another nephew was behind the door to the back office holding a Remington 870. Had the bad guy gotted reckless, our biggest challenge may have been avoiding crossfire.

*****Cleanup would have been a mess too if you had used a few rounds with the Remington 870 with some buckshot. Probably need a good mopping after using a snow shovel to pick up the pieces.

Crabs gotta eat too.

Some good guard dogs never hurt either.

 

[JohnnyE]

*****Cleanup would have been a mess too if you had used a few rounds with the Remington 870 with some buckshot. Probably need a good mopping after using a snow shovel to pick up the pieces.

Crabs gotta eat too.

Because we were in a dense urban streetscape, the 870 was loaded with #4 buck. The big issue would have been the wall to wall carpeting.

 

[JMintzer]

Just be aware of the pertinent DC laws regarding magazine capacity.

Being handicapped by mag capacity limits (while those with less than honorable intentions aren't) - whatever you decide to have on you, carry spare mags and practice reloads frequently.

In DC, you can carry a 10 rnd mag + 1 in the pipe. BUT... The extra mag can only have 9 rounds. 20 rnds total is the limit... Because everyone knows that that 21st round is "extra killier"...

 

[MaxVO2]

Because we were in a dense urban streetscape, the 870 was loaded with #4 buck. The big issue would have been the wall to wall carpeting.

****Yea. Then for sure you would need to be careful to not hurt your back. Also, use some kind of pre-treatment chemical before cleaning the carpets if you planned on keeping the carpet versus just rolling it up with the body inside.

I do CrossFit so am familiar with lifting awkward items like sandbags, boulders, etc.. so using your legs instead of your back can really make things easier if you don't plan on quartering the body first with a chainsaw, axe, etc.. to make it easier to manage.

Safety First!

 

[JohnnyE]

****Yea. Then for sure you would need to be careful to not hurt your back. Also, use some kind of pre-treatment chemical before cleaning the carpets if you planned on keeping the carpet versus just rolling it up with the body inside.

I do CrossFit so am familiar with lifting awkward items like sandbags, boulders, etc.. so using your legs instead of your back can really make things easier if you don't plan on quartering the body first with a chainsaw, axe, etc.. to make it easier to manage.

Safety First!

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Yeah, the image on the left makes me cringe. A friend who had, shall I say semi-successful, back surgery a couple of years ago, lifted a case of wine like depicted on the left.

 

[Threeband]

In DC, you can carry a 10 rnd mag + 1 in the pipe. BUT... The extra mag can only have 9 rounds. 20 rnds total is the limit... Because everyone knows that that 21st round is "extra killier"...

That applies to people carrying in public with a permit. Do those limits apply to a business owner within their privately owned place of business?

Good reason not to own a business in D.C., if they do apply.

In Maryland, a business owner (or supervisory employee with owner's permission) doesn't even need a permit to carry at their place of business, and of course, there are no magazine restrictions, nor are there registration requirements.

As for body disposal and safe lifting, if the business has a basement, why not install a large trap door through which bodies can be dragged and dropped? A simple acid bath saves a lot of mess and bother. Just plan ahead to have the suitable alkaline base on hand to neutralize the acid once the "soup" is done.

 

[E.Shell]

That applies to people carrying in public with a permit. Do those limits apply to a business owner within their privately owned place of business?

Good reason not to own a business in D.C., if they do apply.

In Maryland, a business owner (or supervisory employee with owner's permission) doesn't even need a permit to carry at their place of business, and of course, there are no magazine restrictions, nor are there registration requirements.

As for body disposal and safe lifting, if the business has a basement, why not install a large trap door through which bodies can be dragged and dropped? A simple acid bath saves a lot of mess and bother. Just plan ahead to have the suitable alkaline base on hand to neutralize the acid once the "soup" is done.

Seems like that would smell pretty bad.

 

[Bujwah]

you guys are too funny lol. I am going to be taking HQL class and get the conceal carry permit. I didn't think about practicing the reloading aspect and not fumble if needed.

I'm hoping that I wouldn't ever need to use or pull this out but I want to be ready just incase.

 

[Bujwah]

In Maryland, a business owner (or supervisory employee with owner's permission) doesn't even need a permit to carry at their place of business, and of course, there are no magazine restrictions, nor are there registration requirements.

WOW this is news to me! I do have another store that's in a safer county and I have never felt scared or ever felt like I needed protection based on the customers that came in.

 

[Threeband]

D.C. has horrible laws. Even ammunition must be registered. People are arrested when they're found with a single, empty shell casing in their car or otherwise on their person. Many people here are reluctant to enter D.C. for that reason.

One guy was convicted after being caught with a plain lead ball for a muzleloading rifle. Not a cartridge, no gunpowder, just a small lump of pure lead, like a fishing weight. The rifle itself was at his home in Virginia, and they tried to prosecute him for having an unregistered gun. They couldn't make that stick, but they tried.

Those people are evil.

 

[E.Shell]

WOW this is news to me! I do have another store that's in a safer county and I have never felt scared or ever felt like I needed protection based on the customers that came in.

1) No such thing as a safe county.
2) The customers are not the threat, it's the random that walks in to rob the place.

If you business is not a cash business, gun shop, jewelry store or cell phone store, etc., your chances of that happening drop considerably.

D.C. has horrible laws. Even ammunition must be registered. People are arrested when they're found with a single, empty shell casing in their car or otherwise on their person. Many people here are reluctant to enter D.C. for that reason.

One guy was convicted after being caught with a plain lead ball for a muzleloading rifle. Not a cartridge, no gunpowder, just a small lump of pure lead, like a fishing weight. The rifle itself was at his home in Virginia, and they tried to prosecute him for having an unregistered gun. They couldn't make that stick, but they tried.

Those people are evil.

Yes, they ARE evil. Not only in the sense of malicious prosecution, but also a stated intent to ignore FOPA and 'sort it out in court' (after your arrest and being charged with a crime).

 

[miles71]

you guys are too funny lol. I am going to be taking HQL class and get the conceal carry permit. I didn't think about practicing the reloading aspect and not fumble if needed.

I'm hoping that I wouldn't ever need to use or pull this out but I want to be ready just incase.

I certainly hope your permit course goes over and drills reloading. Remember, do the permit class and it also qualifies for the hql. TD