ATF's Frame / Receiver Rule VACATED!

[Worsley]

For better or worse, in most cases, state law trumps federal law. That's how our constitution works.

Neither statue or law, wheter at the state or at the federal level, supersede the constitution.

 

[babalou]

Thank God he was not driving with some older .22s from like the 50's that do not have SNs.....

 

[letmeoutpax]

I wonder what this means for the people who opted for the ATF style serialization scheme.

 

[slsc98]

I wonder what this means for the people who opted for the ATF style serialization scheme.

“A le$$on bought is worth two lessons learned” … (?)

 

[GuitarmanNick]

I wonder what this means for the people who opted for the ATF style serialization scheme.

It should be treated the same as any other firearm. According to what the FFL that did mine said, they can now be transferred legally because they have a serial number.

I carry a couple of my builds that are in full compliance with the state law.

 

[outrider58]

Neither statue or law, wheter at the state or at the federal level, supersede the constitution.

But that wasn't what I was talking about, and even so, you need the SCOTUS to rule on that.

 

[Worsley]

But that wasn't what I was talking about, and even so, you need the SCOTUS to rule on that.

I know silly, I was augmenting your statement.

 

[JohnnyE]

We should be soooo looking forward to SCOTUS taking up Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo next session. For 40 years, courts have given agences incredible leeway, deferring to them when they interpret federal statutes even though laypersons can see the interpretations are full of shit. Agencies may WANT to do lots of ambitious things, but SOTUS may well end up telling them their leash is only as long at a careful reading of the law allows them. If the agencies want to do more, go ask Congress for the authority.

 

[zx10guy]

I'm looking forward for SCOTUS to actually do their job and take on cases on a priority basis that involve the Constitution. I find it total BS they found the time to rule on abortion and student loans yet drag their feet on 2A issues that attack our Constitutional rights.

 

[budman93]

I'm looking forward for SCOTUS to actually do their job and take on cases on a priority basis that involve the Constitution. I find it total BS they found the time to rule on abortion and student loans yet drag their feet on 2A issues that attack our Constitutional rights.

I do wish they would be quicker with 2A cases but I am very glad that they ruled on both of those issues.

 

[Sundazes]

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It should be treated the same as any other firearm. According to what the FFL that did mine said, they can now be transferred legally because they have a serial number.

I carry a couple of my builds that are in full compliance with the state law.

Not the handguns. They have to be on the roster.

 

[cantstop]

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Not the handguns. They have to be on the roster.

I believe this is a very grey area of the law. PMF's only needed serialization due to that stupid law. Since they are PMFs, they would never actually be on any handgun roster. They weren't bought as a handgun.

Of course, IANAL.

 

[Sundazes]

I believe this is a very grey area of the law. PMF's only needed serialization due to that stupid law. Since they are PMFs, they would never actually be on any handgun roster. They weren't bought as a handgun.

Of course, IANAL.

Neither am I. I do not think it is any grey area. Handguns sold in the state have to be on the roster. C&R excepted.
Maybe a FFL will weigh in.

 

[GuitarmanNick]

PMFs should be on the C&R list.

 

[outrider58]

Serialized frames(pistol) needed to be on the roster prior to the new law. Unserialized PMFs did not, prior to the new law.

I have no idea how they are treating them now.

I recently bought a PSA Dagger frame. It is on the roster. The 'Glock Store's GSX100 can't be purchased in Md. It's not on the roster.