Background checked stopped a Pa man from buying an AR.

[Harrys]

Background checks do work.

Lie on gun application leads to charges

Bloomsburg, Pa. — A Bloomsburg man allegedly lied about his mental health history when he tried to buy an assault rifle.

www.northcentralpa.com

 

[gamer_jim]

Background checks do work.

No

 

[ted76]

I know a guy that lives up by Smithsburg that went into the Hunter's Den in Waynesboro and tried to buy a .22 rifle for his 15 year old son.
He had prior convictions for assault and lied on the 4473 form and got caught by the background check. The state of PA. charged him and I don't think that his case has been resolved yet.

 

[teratos]

I know a guy that lives up by Smithsburg that went into the Hunter's Den in Waynesboro and tried to buy a .22 rifle for his 15 year old son.
He had prior convictions for assault and lied on the 4473 form and got caught by the background check. The state of PA. charged him and I don't think that his case has been resolved yet.

Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[ted76]

He's the type that think's that normal laws don't apply to him, caught he's been caught several times for driving while suspended and expired tags.
He has a home improvement company that's shady as hell.

 

[alucard0822]

Background checks do work.

Lie on gun application leads to charges

Bloomsburg, Pa. — A Bloomsburg man allegedly lied about his mental health history when he tried to buy an assault rifle.

www.northcentralpa.com

Not sure of the exact circumstance, but PA's 302 involuntary mental health evaluation process is a very low bar with little due process that can strip 2A rights for life. It is abused quite a bit, and doesn't take a lot for a family member, usually an angry spouse or an officer to get a judge to sign it. The standard was changed a couple years ago too, lowering it even more from "clear and present danger" to "clear and convincing evidence the person would benefit". This could be a case of a dangerous person that didn't know how to buy a gun from basically anything other than an FFL. Could also be someone that had their rights stripped in an often abused unconstitutional process decades ago, and wasn't aware of the fact long after they have lived a law abiding life in the years since.

Or TLDR, "background checks are unconstitutional BS".

 

[Lafayette]

If background checks work, then the questionnaire is redundant.

(Or worse, the questions only exist because government is purposefully trying to catch you in a lie in order to charge you with lying on a government form.)

 

[ken792]

I know a guy that lives up by Smithsburg that went into the Hunter's Den in Waynesboro and tried to buy a .22 rifle for his 15 year old son.
He had prior convictions for assault and lied on the 4473 form and got caught by the background check. The state of PA. charged him and I don't think that his case has been resolved yet.

If background checks work, then the questionnaire is redundant.

(Or worse, the questions only exist because government is purposefully trying to catch you in a lie in order to charge you with lying on a government form.)

A friend of mine got arrested and charged with a felony for “lying” on the VA state check form because he didn’t realize his home state had incorrectly reported him to NICS as having had involuntary commitment for something that occurred when he was a minor. He had purchased other firearms just fine after clearing the state check a few months prior, so we have no idea why he suddenly got flagged then. He spent nearly $20k in attorney fees over the course of almost a year getting VA to drop the felony charge and then getting his home state to change what they report to NICS.

 

[slsc98]

… He spent nearly $20k in attorney fees over the course of almost a year getting VA to drop the felony charge and then getting his home state to change what they report to NICS.

Geezus …. !

 

[RFBfromDE]

If background checks work, then the questionnaire is redundant.

(Or worse, the questions only exist because government is purposefully trying to catch you in a lie in order to charge you with lying on a government form.)

That’s it!

Unless your name is….

 

[DanGuy48]

The best kinds of lies are the kind you put in writing, in your own hand, and sign your name to it.

 

[owldo]

Still waiting for Hunter Biden to be charged !

 

[AlBeight]

If background checks work, then the questionnaire is redundant.

(Or worse, the questions only exist because government is purposefully trying to catch you in a lie in order to charge you with lying on a government form.)

Agreed, just run the background check while I browse the store for more stuff to buy.

 

[rseymorejr]

We have some clearly mentally unhinged people passing background checks and misusing the guns they buy. That's a huge problem and I have no idea how to fix it, other than trying to identify these loons early. But how do we do that?

 

[Bikebreath]

That’s it!

Unless your name is….

...Hunter Biden

 

[6-Pack]

We have some clearly mentally unhinged people passing background checks and misusing the guns they buy. That's a huge problem and I have no idea how to fix it, other than trying to identify these loons early. But how do we do that?

Get them proper mental health treatment. I love Reagan, but the worst thing he did was decimate our mental health system.

Focus on the people, not the tools they use.

 

[LAC_MD]

Agreed, just run the background check while I browse the store for more stuff to buy.

There still can be gaps. I.E reporting time lag/ reporting omissions.

 

[slsc98]

He's the type that think's that normal laws don't apply to him, …

Ah, a liberal / Democrat then. Yes, I see, now.

 

[slsc98]

Still waiting for Hunter Biden to be charged !

Yeah well, unfortunately for us, right now Hunter and that anti-2A Hollywood pos who murdered another actor and just got off scot free are jerking each other off!

 

[AlBeight]

There still can be gaps. I.E reporting time lag/ reporting omissions.

So my answers to that form are going to fill in those gaps?